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Re: Halo 2... In my thoughts and prayers

I reckon the AR should do more damage. The normal thing in FPSs is that the most powerful weapon is (excluding snipers and explosives) a machine gun, and the AR was debateably the worst gun, being inaccurate and weak. I agree that there should be sentinel weapon you can use.

There should be more multiplayer maps that support vehicles and especially banshees also you should be able to toggle individual vehicles on and off, rather than selecing all or only one kind

Your stuff about races is good. I believe that flod should b rubbish with weapons because their limbs dont exactly seem dextrous do they

The huntrs weak spots should be made smaller because is too easy to kill them at present

For multiplayer they should incorporate bots, having shown with the marines that they are good with AI

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Re: Halo 2... In my thoughts and prayers

The thing with AI is that Bungie just haven't got the time or perhaps even the inclination to code for anything other than simple team/deathmatch.

I suppose it would be cool to have the option to have occasional marine airdrops in multiplayer mode, to support the human players on each team.

Personally I think it a shame that Bungie never included the human boat in the game [You must have seen the concept art at Halo.Bungie.Org]. Some water levels would also be cool. As would the ability to have more than 16 players in multiplay. Perhaps 32, or even 64 on some larger maps. Would be nice.

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In Halo 2 ther is a new pistol where it gets lodged in a target and then explodes. A crude human needler. There is a warthog with missiles instead of a chaingun. You can use more vehicles, old and new(i.e. the longsword fighter and an atv a.k.a. quad). They have improved more stuff like graphics( I wish they would've kept some of the old ideas for MC's suit.) and gameplay. The covenant do find Earth( It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum) and they have attacked. All we can do is wait, though I do know alot about it.

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: I reckon the AR should do more damage. The normal thing in
: FPSs is that the most powerful weapon is (excluding snipers
: and explosives) a machine gun, and the AR was debateably the
: worst gun, being inaccurate and weak.

you're a cybrog with armor plating a small calibur assult rifle shouldn't do much to you, we have body armor today that will stop assualt rifle rounds. Why does halo have to follow "the normal thing" anyway?

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i was thinkin just now that it would be neat if you could shoot out rockets and deflect grenades and what not... kinda like metal gear solid (i.e. deflecting vamp's knives). the physics of the game are perfect, just think it would be cooler if they affected every conceivable item relavent to gameplay.

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: i was thinkin just now that it would be neat if you could
: shoot out rockets and deflect grenades and what not... kinda
: like metal gear solid (i.e. deflecting vamp's knives). the
: physics of the game are perfect, just think it would be
: cooler if they affected every conceivable item relavent to
: gameplay.

so you could hit grenades back at people like baseball

hehehe that would be funny

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I would like to see some weapons have secondary fires/functions. Perfect dark is a good example. Alternate types of ammo would also be nice. Anything to spice up the weapons for more in depth strategy.

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i would like to be able to construct some maps. put in towers, barbwire, bamboo spikes fun stuff like that

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halo 2 is gonna have uppgradeble weapons :-)

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I wonder if Bungie is planning to have more Spartans in Halo 2? Possibly the next group that Mendez disappears off to train!

Mendez leaves to train the next group in 2525, Halo is set in 2552 just after reach falls, providing that the next group starts training at or around six years old like the MC, that would mean that they could be 33 years old providing they survived training.

I first thought that they might have been killed on reach but at that age they would of left the planet by then, probably on a mission or something?

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Tell me if I remember incorrectly, but didn't the PoA jump to Slipstream before it saw the fate of everyone AROUND Reach. I think the book said that the Covenant were taking care of the rest of the fleet and not that everyone eles had already been destroyed. It is possible that the new Spartan II's (or Spartan III's) escaped or were at thier test deployments. Also, you never were clear on wether or not James died floating in space or if he was picked up by a ship and escaped "safely." Also, Kelly, who was placed into a cryotube (like the one that is missing from beside you in the intro movie of PoA)before she was offically dead, could have been ejected from the PoA on a trajectory toward Earth. Another ship in Slipstream could have picked her up and taken her to Earth were she could have been revieved. I know this might seem crazy, but remember the key word in URL address above: "rampancy".

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Reclaimer wrote on Friday, 10/25/2002 - 10:41 pm:

: Tell me if I remember incorrectly, but didn't the PoA jump
: to Slipstream before it saw the fate of everyone AROUND
: Reach. I think the book said that the Covenant were taking
: care of the rest of the fleet and not that everyone eles had
: already been destroyed. It is possible that the new Spartan
: II's (or Spartan III's) escaped or were at thier test
: deployments. Also, you never were clear on wether or not
: James died floating in space or if he was picked up by a
: ship and escaped "safely." Also, Kelly, who was placed into
: a cryotube (like the one that is missing from beside you in
: the intro movie of PoA)before she was offically dead, could
: have been ejected from the PoA on a trajectory toward Earth.
: Another ship in Slipstream could have picked her up and
: taken her to Earth were she could have been revieved. I
: know this might seem crazy, but remember the key word in URL
: address above: "rampancy".

True.

Most of those questions may never be resolved. Remember about the other nine Mjolnir cyborgs in Marathon?



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narcogen wrote on Saturday, 10/26/2002 - 12:12 am:

: Most of those questions may never be resolved.

Hopefully these questions will be resolved by Halo 2. If not Halo 2, maybe by a Halo prequel or Halo movie. Don't think that their will be a Halo prequel/movie? You'd be suprised what 1,000,000+ fans e-mailing and writing a person could do to thier mind. Take the head of Bungie for example...*cough* hint *cough*.

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Reclaimer wrote on Sunday, 10/27/2002 - 8:56 pm:

: narcogen wrote on Saturday, 10/26/2002 - 12:12 am:
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: : Most of those questions may never be resolved.
:
: Hopefully these questions will be resolved by Halo 2.

Then what would be the point of Halo 3?

If
: not Halo 2, maybe by a Halo prequel or Halo movie. Don't
: think that their will be a Halo prequel/movie?

Movie? I'd bet against it.

Prequel? Probably not. Notice that even the only real "prequel" in Bungie history is not really Bungie-- Myth: The Wolf Age (Myth 3).

You'd be
: suprised what 1,000,000+ fans e-mailing and writing a person
: could do to thier mind. Take the head of Bungie for
: example...*cough* hint *cough*.

Marathon fans screamed for years for Marathon 4 and got nothing.

Well, that's not fair. They got the source code and Halo. :)

No, to be honest, I think Bungie (as usual) is going to tell the story they want to tell, the way they want to, to the conclusion they see fit-- and not one bit more or less. Usually that entails leaving some tantalizing questions open to interpretation. Even after 3 Marathon games and 2 Myth games, there are still persistent and compelling questions about those stories, and it's part of what makes them interesting.

If all the questions are answered, there'd be no reason for a website like the Marathon's Story page to keep going more than 7 years.



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we still should keep gettin on bungie for info and other things. i mean who knos, maybe halo IS marathon 4?

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shibby wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 12:59 am:

:
:
: we still should keep gettin on bungie for info and other
: things. i mean who knos, maybe halo IS marathon 4?

Actually, they denied that one pretty flat out-- but there are still those who think there is some kind of a literal connection, dispite the mismatch in timelines.

Myself, I just happen to think the two games share a common theme and authorship, and that's about it.



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narcogen wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 2:59 am:

: shibby wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 12:59 am:
:
: :
: :
: : we still should keep gettin on bungie for info and
: other
: : things. i mean who knos, maybe halo IS marathon 4?
:
: Actually, they denied that one pretty flat out-- but there
: are still those who think there is some kind of a literal
: connection, dispite the mismatch in timelines.

-hey i pointed out the mismached timelines thank u very much

: Myself, I just happen to think the two games share a
: common theme and authorship, and that's about it.
:
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shibby wrote on Tuesday, 10/29/2002 - 1:56 am:

: narcogen wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 2:59 am:
:
: : shibby wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 12:59 am:
: :
: : :
: : :
: : : we still should keep gettin on bungie for info and
: : other
: : : things. i mean who knos, maybe halo IS marathon 4?
: :
: : Actually, they denied that one pretty flat out-- but
: there
: : are still those who think there is some kind of a
: literal
: : connection, dispite the mismatch in timelines.
:
: -hey i pointed out the mismached timelines thank u very
: much

Umm.. sorry to burst your bubble, that was pointed out over a year ago, when the official backstory for Halo was inadvertently leaked by Bungie.

To be precise, Chlazza found it back on September 21, 2001:

http://rampancy.net/node.php?id=38

And about fifteen minutes after that, people started trying to make it match up with the Marathon timeline, and found that pieces didn't fit :)


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narcogen wrote on Sunday, 10/27/2002 - 10:31 pm

:: maybe by a Halo prequel or Halo movie.
:: Don't think that their will be a Halo prequel/movie?

: Movie? I'd bet against it.

We are living in the movie age for prequels and computer game films.

I'd LOVE to see a "Halo the Movie" as long as it was a good film adaptation, like the Resident Evil movie.. But if it wasn't any good I think it would kill it off completely...

Judge Dread springs to mind... he just had to take his helmet off didn't he!!!

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: good film adaptation, like the Resident Evil movie

the resident evil movie was not good. maybe true to the game, but it wasn't a good movie.

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c0ld vengeance wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 10:10 am:

: narcogen wrote on Sunday, 10/27/2002 - 10:31 pm
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: :: maybe by a Halo prequel or Halo movie.
: :: Don't think that their will be a Halo prequel/movie?
:
: : Movie? I'd bet against it.
:
: We are living in the movie age for prequels and computer
: game films.

Yes. However, there have already been statements from Bungie about the likelihood of a Halo movie, so I'll fall back on those.

:
: I'd LOVE to see a "Halo the Movie" as long as it was a
: good film adaptation, like the Resident Evil movie.. But if
: it wasn't any good I think it would kill it off
: completely...

Ow... as good as all that? I always wondered how they were going to make a movie about an admittedly decent videogame that had legendarily poor voice acting. Halo would be much better source material.

:
: Judge Dread springs to mind... he just had to take his
: helmet off didn't he!!!

Ow again... if the Halo movie would be anything along the lines of the two films you mentioned, I'd pay them $7 not to make it :)

Nothing less than something as good as the first two "Alien" movies would cut it.



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narcogen wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 11:02 pm:

: : Judge Dread springs to mind... he just had to take his
: : helmet off didn't he!!!
:
: Ow again... if the Halo movie would be anything along the
: lines of the two films you mentioned, I'd pay them $7 not to
: make it :)
:
: Nothing less than something as good as the first two
: "Alien" movies would cut it.
:

True, Aliens is excellent, Judge Dread was an awful movie.

Judge dread was my "kill it off completely" movie example

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c0ld vengeance wrote on Tuesday, 10/29/2002 - 9:27 am:

: narcogen wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 11:02 pm:
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:
: : : Judge Dread springs to mind... he just had to take
: his
: : : helmet off didn't he!!!
: :
: : Ow again... if the Halo movie would be anything along
: the
: : lines of the two films you mentioned, I'd pay them $7
: not to
: : make it :)
: :
: : Nothing less than something as good as the first two
: : "Alien" movies would cut it.
: :
:
: True, Aliens is excellent, Judge Dread was an awful
: movie.
:
: Judge dread was my "kill it off completely" movie
: example
:
: c0ld

OH... heh :)

Yeah, I'd have to agree there. :D


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narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 10/29/2002 - 9:58 pm:

: c0ld vengeance wrote on Tuesday, 10/29/2002 - 9:27 am:
:
: : narcogen wrote on Monday, 10/28/2002 - 11:02 pm:
: :
: :
: : : : Judge Dread springs to mind... he just had to take
: : his
: : : : helmet off didn't he!!!
: : :
: : : Ow again... if the Halo movie would be anything
: along
: : the
: : : lines of the two films you mentioned, I'd pay them
: $7
: : not to
: : : make it :)
: : :
: : : Nothing less than something as good as the first two
: : : "Alien" movies would cut it.
: : :
: :
: : True, Aliens is excellent, Judge Dread was an awful
: : movie.
: :
: : Judge dread was my "kill it off completely" movie
: : example
: :
: : c0ld
:
: OH... heh :)
:
: Yeah, I'd have to agree there. :D
:


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You think that Judge Dread was bad did you ever see Super Mario Brothers, now that was on steeming pile of dog crap!

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re the flood

Has the creators of halo got any relatonship with the Flood

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that would suck...master cheif works alone

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name wrote on Monday, 11/4/2002 - 11:03 pm:

: that would suck...master cheif works alone

You obviously havn't read Fall of Reach then?

The Master Chief kicks covenant AS5 in a team!

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name wrote on Monday, 11/4/2002 - 11:03 pm:

: that would suck...master cheif works alone
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Read 'The Fall of Reach' the Master Cheif kickes ass in teams just think about setting up ambushes with other spartans in Halo 2!

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Halo 2 should have helecopters. Something like a blackhawk or an apache-a4. The helecotper is quieter. Some of them can land behind you without you noticeing. A helecopter also doesn't need to land for people to get off. All it has to do is go low and kinda slow. The dropship has to land. A onboard chain gun would be nice to.

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Yeah.. I think some human aircraft would be neat.

If Halo 2 does indeed take place at least in part on Earth, seems to me that it's possible we might see something like that...

System Failure wrote on Wednesday, 10/30/2002 - 9:14 pm:

:
: Halo 2 should have helecopters. Something like a blackhawk
: or an apache-a4. The helecotper is quieter. Some of them can
: land behind you without you noticeing. A helecopter also
: doesn't need to land for people to get off. All it has to do
: is go low and kinda slow. The dropship has to land. A
: onboard chain gun would be nice to.



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imagine taking down an helicopter pilot, the whole thing goes down and everyone jumping all off...
with parachutes maybe!!

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: imagine taking down an helicopter pilot, the whole thing
: goes down and everyone jumping all off...
: with parachutes maybe!!

Do Spartans need parachutes?

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: Do Spartans need parachutes?
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yeah the guy goes down on the escape capsule thing and isnt hurt

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Havok wrote on Thursday, 10/31/2002 - 8:46 pm:

: imagine taking down an helicopter pilot, the whole thing
: goes down and everyone jumping all off...
: with parachutes maybe!!

Yeah.. in the original game, I *really* wanted to be able to take out dropships. Of course, that breaks a lot of scripts :)



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Cool? yes. But I'll stick take the drop ship

System Failure wrote on Wednesday, 10/30/2002 - 8:14 pm:

:
: Halo 2 should have helecopters. Something like a blackhawk
: or an apache-a4. The helecotper is quieter. Some of them can
: land behind you without you noticeing.

yes this could be cool. the effects of shooting one down would be awesome. I think I'd have to aim for ripping off the tail every time ;-)

: A helecopter also
: doesn't need to land for people to get off. All it has to do
: is go low and kinda slow. The dropship has to land.

what? I'm not sure I ever saw the dropship on the ground except in wrecks. go back and play halo again, Sparten and mariens are always jumping off the back while it hovers there.

not that I know anything about the tech of the dropship or possible helos in Halo, but I'd guess taht the drop ships is much safer form of transportation.

: A
: onboard chain gun would be nice to.

or for that matter a hellfire missle rack...

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:
: Halo 2 should have helecopters. Something like a blackhawk
: or an apache-a4. The helecotper is quieter. Some of them can
: land behind you without you noticeing.

Yes this could be cool. The effects of shooting one down would be awesome, I think I'd have to aim for ripping off the tail every time ;-)

: A helecopter also
: doesn't need to land for people to get off. All it has to do
: is go low and kinda slow. The dropship has to land.

What? I'm not sure I ever saw the dropship on the ground except in wrecks. Go back and play halo again, Sparten and mariens are always jumping off the back, while it hovers 5 feet off the ground.

Not that I know anything about the tech of the dropship or possible helos in Halo, but I'd guess that the drop ships is a much safer form of transportation.

: A
: onboard chain gun would be nice to.

Or for that matter a hellfire missle rack...

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....

In the halo 2 trailer, they show nuclear scale explosions on the surface of earth, it seems likely that these would be emitting emp shockwaves and thus damaging and destroying electronics etc., which would make an open and unshielded helicopter unlikely in place of a dropship.

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Choppers?

okay - cool as the idea of a chopper would be...I can't see them being employed in place of a craft that can hover, break orbit, and move quite a chunk faster than anything with rotor blades. A modified dropship I could understand...but choppers would just seem...so...20th century

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What about a chopper jet hybrid. And a helecopter can hover. But don't forget Earendil's hellfire missle rack. They could at least hook up some passenger operated gatling guns and M50's

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System Failure wrote on Friday, 11/15/2002 - 7:33 pm:

: What about a chopper jet hybrid. And a helecopter can
: hover. But don't forget Earendil's hellfire missle rack.
: They could at least hook up some passenger operated gatling
: guns and M50's to the dropship to help fighting. Look in the level Maw foehammer gets blown to bits. If she had some weapons the big explosion might've been avioded.
:
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In 'The Fall of Reach' when the MC is doing the assault course a longsword attacks him, you could have this in Halo 2 or a more smaller fighter jet.

I am sure that the military will not give up on one man crafts just because we can build big motherf*@£!? war ships!

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according to prima official guide the pelican has a 70mm chin cannon. still though, it is mounted on the front. I think it would be pretty good if there was a gun turret onn the top like a b-17 or something.

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neox4 wrote on Sunday, 11/10/2002 - 3:05 pm:

: okay - cool as the idea of a chopper would be...I can't
: see them being employed in place of a craft that can hover,
: break orbit, and move quite a chunk faster than anything
: with rotor blades. A modified dropship I could
: understand...but choppers would just seem...so...20th
: century

yeah i agree. why the hell would the army use something that has rotor blades in place of something that hovers and can carry a tank or jeep into and out of orbit! and parachutes? pretty good idea, what do the marines do when a pelican goes down? pray. Black hawks and apache a-4s aren't exactly going to exist in the year 2552.

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As I look through the Halo 2 feature in my EGM magazine again I still stare at the Brute in awe. It looks so powerful and mighty and ,well, violent. But as I stare at its "utility belt" I see what EGM has speculatively labeled as "Ka-boomsticks", a new type of Covenant grenade. They are basically a long metal cylinder with a little bit of glass protruding out and they don't appear to have any kind of trigger mechanism but an open hole instead, so I don't think they are grenades. What I think they are is power cores for the Covenant weapons. I hope its what they are and that we could use them. I mean, I find it hard to believe that the Covenant would just throw a weapon away after its core was empty.

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Reclaimer wrote on Friday, 11/1/2002 - 9:29 pm:

: As I look through the Halo 2 feature in my EGM magazine
: again I still stare at the Brute in awe. It looks so
: powerful and mighty and ,well, violent. But as I stare at
: its "utility belt" I see what EGM has speculatively labeled
: as "Ka-boomsticks", a new type of Covenant grenade. They
: are basically a long metal cylinder with a little bit of
: glass protruding out and they don't appear to have any kind
: of trigger mechanism but an open hole instead, so I don't
: think they are grenades. What I think they are is power
: cores for the Covenant weapons. I hope its what they are
: and that we could use them. I mean, I find it hard to
: believe that the Covenant would just throw a weapon away
: after its core was empty.

Well, that's something I've always wondered about. All the Covenant weapons are energy weapons, not projectile weapons.

But we never see a recharge station.

This isa bit like Marathon, where the only weapon that I think could not be reloaded was the Pfhor staff (also an energy weapon).



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Reclaimer wrote on Friday, 11/1/2002 - 8:29 pm:

: As I look through the Halo 2 feature in my EGM magazine
: again I still stare at the Brute in awe.

Do you or does anyone know their web address, i don’t have access to that magazine.

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egm.gamers.com or egmmag.com

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Reclaimer wrote on Monday, 11/4/2002 - 11:17 pm:

: egm.gamers.com or egmmag.com

Dammit, cant find this picture of the Brute, can anybody help?

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