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Re: Practice

I agree that certain design decisions were made that don't make a lot of sense in the context of multiplayer. Players inside that warthog take the same level of damage as if they were out side. It's problematic because you're a bigger target in a warthog and you have less control over your movement. Yes, it is very useful but it could be improved.

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Re: Practice

It's a balance thing, I guess. If you were too tough to kill in the 'hog, it'd be too hard for players on foot to kill you. If you shoot part of the 'hog itself and not the driver, don't they take less damage?

Top vehicle tip: Shoot the enemie's vehicle with a fully charged plasma pistol shot and EVERYONE in it will lose their shields, even if they have overshields.

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in multiplayer it is kinda gay. my friend was in the front seat and i shot the back wheel and he got hurt. that was lame. so even if u miss him derectly u still get him...

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I think they've just done that to make it easier to kill people in vehicles. On your own, the warthog is pretty useless, but with a gunner it's much better.

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Your right, they did do it to balance it for people on foot and it is kinda sucky. You should only be able to damage the people inside if you hitthem directly (could include shots through the windascreen and or shots from sniper rifle that are lined up with the player but do less damage so u can shoot through the thin bit ant the back and still tag the gunner but not full power).

make any sense? nah. nm eh.

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or it could be really cool and the first shot just breaks the glass and the rest hurt you.
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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

Diablo wrote on Monday, 08/26/2002 - 5:06 pm:

: In halo the wathog is the most senseless vehicle. The
: gatling gun is good, & the fact that it can hold 2 gunners
: is also cool. But There is no protection at all You are open
: to any enemy/freindly fire?! all passengers are to, making
: it practically a bullet magnet. You are also very very open
: to snipers in multiplayer. In Halo 2 the wathog should be
: remodled sort of like a Hum-v, giving protection to the most
: important people; the drivers.

Have you ever actually tried sniping the driver of a Warthog? Not only do you have to sneak in the shot at the right angle to hit him, but you also have to hit him WHILE HE'S SPINNING IN GAWDAWFUL CIRCLES.

Shooting the Warthog itself does minimal damage. To deal significant amounts of pain, you need to hit the PLAYER - which is incredibly difficult, due to angles. More likely you'll hit the windshield or site - the player himself is usually only exposed for fleeting moments.

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A little fun

Just to tell you all, rumour has it that in Halo 2 you can get the (removed) Warthog that Bungie players got to use... the one with a Tank Turret, instead of the normal gun

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JunoGem wrote on Friday, 08/30/2002 - 3:35 pm:

: Just to tell you all, rumour has it that in Halo 2 you can
: get the (removed) Warthog that Bungie players got to use...
: the one with a Tank Turret, instead of the normal gun

Rumors has it you shouldn't put much faith in rumors about a game that no one knows much about yet...

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A Good Time

I think Halo 2 is going to rock because if its better than the first one then I think that it is going to have alot of cool stuff.

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Re: A Good Time

To be honest, if they just made more levels with a new story in the same engine I'd still buy it!

It's true what vector40 said, hitting the warthog itself does minimal damage, and it takes a lot of sniper shots to kill someone that way. But hit THEM, and it's a different story. The sniper rifle is a good weapon for taking out people in them if you're a very good aim, though, and the rocket launcher is very effective but you have to get pretty close to have a good chance of blowing them up.

But one of the easiest ways to kill a palyer in a warthog is to shoot it with a fully charged plasma shot and then follow up with a rapid fire weapon, because the first shot, even if it hits the vehicle takes off all their shield, no matter what. By the way, did you know that plasma grenades don't stick to the windshield?

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Re: A Good Time

No but they got it down for sticking one up a grunts @ss!

Dallon wrote on Friday, 08/30/2002 - 10:10 pm:
By the way, did you know that plasma grenades
: don't stick to the windshield?

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Re: A Good Time

Dallon wrote on Friday, 08/30/2002 - 7:10 pm:

: By the way, did you know that plasma grenades
: don't stick to the windshield?

I have lost more than one game this way.

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Re: A Good Time

must be greased or sumthin...lol

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Greased Warthog...urgh, that sounds disgusting!

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Dallon wrote on Sunday, 09/1/2002 - 10:08 pm:

: Greased Warthog...urgh, that sounds disgusting!

It's a sub-Saharan African rodeo event.

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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

yes, the warthog is very exposed, it is also the fastest and most manueverable vehicle next to the ghost. when the shit hits the fan, you'll be glad you have it.

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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

Oh, I see, like oiled-ocelot. ;)

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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

Ryan (until recently, Dallon) wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 8:48 pm:

: Oh, I see, like oiled-ocelot. ;)

shibby(until recently shibby) cool how do you change your name . not that i want to im shibby on everything xbox so people will know me but i still want to know how to change it any way.;}

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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

shibby wrote on Wednesday, 09/11/2002 - 12:01 am:

: Ryan (until recently, Dallon) wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002
: - 8:48 pm:
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: : Oh, I see, like oiled-ocelot. ;)
:
: shibby(until recently shibby) cool how do you change your
: name . not that i want to im shibby on everything xbox so
: people will know me but i still want to know how to change
: it any way.;}

Look for the link called "account settings" in the box in the upper left hand corner of the screen. That can be used to change your login name (this is what Dallon did, which is why even all his OLD posts show his NEW name, as well as the TOp 10 users box).

In the forum, of course, you can type in any name you want in "name to display"-- but when your name displays it will still link to your user profile with your "real" login name.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Warthog sucks like crap

What he said. If you're wondering why it's become Ryan formerly Dallon rather than just Ryan it's because then no-one would no who I was. Eventually it will just be Ryan.

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Re: Warthog roles OK!!

The warthog is the best vehicle in the game.

Ok the controls are a bit over sensative but running down the Covenent is fun, you all have to agree with me there?

Also I have heard about some new variations of the warthog for Halo 2, the Jungle warthog, Snow warthow and Troop warthog.
The jungle and snow ones dont need any explenation but the troop one will be good. Imagine an online game, a group of players are slowly been advanced on by a platoon of covies when a warthog full of Spartans jumps over the hill!

God I cant wait for Halo 2 to come out!

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Online multiplayer team missions

I was just reading on xbox.com and Jaime Griesemer lead designer of Halo 2 has been quoted saying:-

"I don't want to ruin the surprise, but imagine the essential Halo single-player experience: pitched battles between the humans and the Covenant, massive vehicle and infantry engagements. Now imagine that every combatant is an actual person playing over Xbox Live!"

The Halo 2 online multiplayer experience will feature squad-oriented team-play, real-time voice chat, and extensive community support."

Now I am interpreting that as Online multiplayer team missions..

Thoughts??

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Re: Online multiplayer team missions

i beleve this has already been discussed about being able to play as cov. but your theory is as good as any ones.

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Spartin wrote on Monday, 09/2/2002 - 4:20 pm:

: i beleve this has already been discussed about being able
: to play as cov. but your theory is as good as any ones.
:
: kiwi

Actually, it could mean both.

I've always had the feeling that the original plans for how Halo would be played on networks was far more expansive and ambitious than what we saw in Halo 1's system link play.



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Re: Online multiplayer team missions

it might just be 3rd person action

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da TRAILER

hey how much longer we have to wait....... oh yea ONE DAY!!!!!!. YEA!!!!!!! woooo hoooo!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!............. watch it be lyk this little 30 second movie clip. man that would be very dissapointing

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does anyone kno were to get it once its released. and no im not some newbi who just found out ive benn waiting since it was anounced at the X02

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Trailer Langth

I point you to what Matt (the PR guy) said over at HBO

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=138510

and in responce to your other thread, if you haven't been here for at least a year (and some would say 2), you're a newb :-)

Earendil

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I'm back everyone, did you miss me? :-)

: hey how much longer we have to wait....... oh yea ONE
: DAY!!!!!!. YEA!!!!!!! woooo hoooo!!!!!
: FINALLY!!!!!!!!............. watch it be lyk this little 30
: second movie clip. man that would be very dissapointing

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Haha, and that proves it's me :-)

Length. it's Length.

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Re: Trailer Langth

Earendil wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 9:28 pm:

: I point you to what Matt (the PR guy) said over at HBO
:
:
: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=138510
:
: and in responce to your other thread, if you haven't been
: here for at least a year (and some would say 2), you're a
: newb :-)

Some would even say 3. :)



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Re: Trailer Langth

narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 8:17 pm:

: Earendil wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 9:28 pm:
:
: : I point you to what Matt (the PR guy) said over at HBO
: :
: :
: :
: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=138510
: :
: : and in responce to your other thread, if you haven't
: been
: : here for at least a year (and some would say 2), you're
: a
: : newb :-)
:
: Some would even say 3. :)
:

*pats his 3+ years* yeah well I'm safe.
if you know what the Core is, you're safe in my book ;-)

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Re: Trailer Langth

Earendil wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 9:21 pm:

: narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 8:17 pm:
:
: : Earendil wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 9:28 pm:
: :
: : : I point you to what Matt (the PR guy) said over at
: HBO
: : :
: : :
: : :
: :
: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=138510
: : :
: : : and in responce to your other thread, if you haven't
: : been
: : : here for at least a year (and some would say 2),
: you're
: : a
: : : newb :-)
: :
: : Some would even say 3. :)
: :
:
: *pats his 3+ years* yeah well I'm safe.
: if you know what the Core is, you're safe in my book ;-)

ok how did this get to a descussion about our so called "RANK" i still want to kno what site is gonna have the halo 2 trailer !!!!! hmmmm ??????

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Re: Trailer Langth

Earendil wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 12:21 am:

: narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 8:17 pm:
:
: : Earendil wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 9:28 pm:
: :
: : : I point you to what Matt (the PR guy) said over at
: HBO
: : :
: : :
: : :
: :
: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=138510
: : :
: : : and in responce to your other thread, if you haven't
: : been
: : : here for at least a year (and some would say 2),
: you're
: : a
: : : newb :-)
: :
: : Some would even say 3. :)
: :
:
: *pats his 3+ years* yeah well I'm safe.
: if you know what the Core is, you're safe in my book ;-)

Ahh... well, the Core... that's right here of course.



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Re: da TRAILER

shibby wrote on Tuesday, 09/3/2002 - 7:03 pm:

:
: hey how much longer we have to wait....... oh yea ONE
: DAY!!!!!!. YEA!!!!!!! woooo hoooo!!!!!
: FINALLY!!!!!!!!............. watch it be lyk this little 30
: second movie clip. man that would be very dissapointing

Actually, it's 2:30 according to xbox.com.

And according to Matt, it'll be later today... probably in the evening EST.



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yea but where? what site is gonna have it

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Well in that case I'm a newbie then. And how!

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yea rock on the newbis... at least to this site.... i cant stand newbis on xbconnect

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It does irritate me when you get those sites where the people on there just won't except anyone new...but when they piss around and drive everyone up the wall, I can understand it.

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Dallon wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 5:53 am:

: It does irritate me when you get those sites where the
: people on there just won't except anyone new...but when they
: piss around and drive everyone up the wall, I can understand
: it.

We don't usually have either problem here.

Although it is safe to say that there was a hardcore group of Bungie fans that have followed them from their days of being an independent Mac developer. They've achieved a much wider fan base by releasing Halo first on the Xbox-- doubtless one of the major reasons for doing so.



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you can see it x-box.com at 9:00 est

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: We don't usually have either problem here.
:
: Although it is safe to say that there was a hardcore group
: of Bungie fans that have followed them from their days of
: being an independent Mac developer. They've achieved a much
: wider fan base by releasing Halo first on the Xbox--
: doubtless one of the major reasons for doing so.

I'm glad they did that. It's just such a classic game, it would have been criminal if it went unoticed. There's certainly no risk of that now!

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man i am pissed. yesterday someone said it would be out later at night. it wasnt. so i woke up at 6 and ran to my comp and to my dissmay i read. HALO 2 TRAILER:6:00 pacific time!!!!!!!! well im still excited tho so yea!

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Dallon wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 4:03 pm:

: : We don't usually have either problem here.
: :
: : Although it is safe to say that there was a hardcore
: group
: : of Bungie fans that have followed them from their days
: of
: : being an independent Mac developer. They've achieved a
: much
: : wider fan base by releasing Halo first on the Xbox--
: : doubtless one of the major reasons for doing so.
:
: I'm glad they did that. It's just such a classic game, it
: would have been criminal if it went unoticed. There's
: certainly no risk of that now!

True. But there was a great deal of controversy when the announcement was originally made-- especially becase, for awhile, it was not certain that a port of it would come to the Mac. Strange, since Halo first debuted at MacWorld. :)



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TRAILER:AWESOM!!!!!!! but it was very breif. very powerful and moving but still breif. i think we were expecting more explanation about the story. i mean we kno we fight to protect earth but theres alot of deatails missing. the transmissions were awesom. obital crusers i think glass plants. again bungie AWESOM JOB!!!!!! it was breif but that makes us all want it even more. damn its gonna be a long year till Q4 03.

AWESOM !!!!!!! TRAILER!!!!!!

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THAT WAS TOTALLY WORTH THE WAIT!

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: TRAILER:AWESOM!!!!!!! but it was very breif. very powerful
: and moving but still breif. i think we were expecting more
: explanation about the story. i mean we kno we fight to
: protect earth but theres alot of deatails missing. the
: transmissions were awesom. obital crusers i think glass
: plants. again bungie AWESOM JOB!!!!!! it was breif but that
: makes us all want it even more. damn its gonna be a long
: year till Q4 03.
:
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: AWESOM !!!!!!! TRAILER!!!!!!
:
I think you better swicth to decaf, Shibby! ;)

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Halo 2 movie in-engine: confirmed

Not that anyone was wondering... but Matt Soell confirmed that the Halo 2 trailer, like those before it, was not pre-rendered but rendered in-engine.


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narcogen wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 9:54 pm:

: Not that anyone was wondering... but Matt Soell : href="http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=139693"
: target="_top">confirmed that the Halo 2 trailer, like
: those before it, was not pre-rendered but rendered
: in-engine.
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SUH-FRICKEN-WEET!!!! it is SO AWESOM!!!! i got it right when it came out and have been playing it in the backround ever since!

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COOOOOOOOOOOL HEH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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