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Archived forum posts for discussion of the upcoming sequel to Bungie's groundbreaking console shooter, Halo.

Please please PLEASE create new topics on the top level-- this thread is going to get overloaded soon.

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warthogs

4 diffrent kinds of warthogs now

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i hope there is are sone......

i hope that, in Halo 2, there are more then one Spartan soilder, like, a couple that made it off on other ships like the PoA? some thing like that....and, any ideawhat kind of high explosives that the MC can use???

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X2

I know this is sort of off the subjest but- has anyone here beaten the new game "X2, Wolverine's Revenge" yet? Cause I'm so stumped that it's not even funny.

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

Not meaning to have a go at u but he is the only remaining spartan. If u had tread the fall of reach it tells u this. The rest have died somehow (all in different ways) but the book did say there was a start of a new program i think but these spartans will in no way be combat ready. They would be in the early stages but they may have started and be out there fighting. In the trailer video the soldier said when i ordered back-up i never thought they'd send a spartan. This may imply that there is still more than one and that he is not the only surviver but the others may just be the new recruits. So when typing this ive been thinking and u might be right but it is none of the original spartans.

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

that sucks, the MC dosnt get any spartans to help him....o well, ill have to save the owrld all by mt self (sigh) ......

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

In the fall of reach it said that there were shelters that could withstand the glassing of the planet. Maybe after the spartans failed to keep the ground forces from destroying the power source for the orbital guns they got in the shelters and survived under reach's surface.

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

i hope so lol!

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

In the book the Fall of Reach it said and I quote " Assembled here tonight are all surviving Spartans save three, who are otherwise engaged on fields of battle to distant to be easily recalled." page 240 paragraph 5. Dr. Halsey said that, so it means that all of the spartans probly died on Reach except for John-Spartan117 "Master Chief" and the three others who could not make it to the battle on Reach. So in total there are 4 spartans still alive. Meaning that there might 3 other spartans in HALO 2

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Re: i hope there is are sone......

kool......gee, i really need to get the books

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The Rebellion

In The Fall of Reach you may remember the first mission of
the newly formed Spartan soldiers was to capture the Comander of the outpost or base stationed on or rather
inside an asteroid. What role will the Rebels have to play
in the HumanCovenant War? If master chief,John or #117
whatever you choose to call him was to fail would these
outposts be the only Human inhabited Areas in the Universe.
And if so the Covenant would not know about them, Therefore
Humans in fact would survive and possibly later on 100 years
or so pose a guerrilla like war on the Covenant. A great story I think.

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Re: The Rebellion

I haven't read the book, so could you please tell me everything you know about those rebels.

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Re: The Rebellion

The rebels would have been wiped out. The Covenant cleaned out every solar system were humans were found. They would have most likely spotted these rebels within the asteroids and just destroyed the asteroid itself. No survivors...

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The covenant would not have wiped out the rebels, mainly because the rebels are totaly severed from the rest of the UNSC. I'm sure, but i could be wrong after all we are trying to get inside of the minds of a fictional collection of Alien races, that the Covenant would not have expected the Humans to have had a civil war, there may not be such a thing in Covenant Society, Maybe the Covenant have a bond racialy( once an Elite always an Elite) and so that there would be no dissagreement (other than political) against the major social hierarchy.Also think about this: Every world that the Covenant have encountered Humans they have been planets not necessarily Solar systems not Asteroids so once again the Covenant would not anticipate such a location for Humans to inhabit.

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Re: The Rebellion

Maybe the role of the rebels in TFoR was something more deep. I mean, this IS Bungie after all: Everything's connected! Why would they talk about a mission where the MC had to capture a senior rebel officer in TFoR if it wasn't important to the whole storyline. Maybe there was something that the rebel officer knew that ONI wanted to find out. Those are my 2 cents..

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I think if the Covenant had boarded a vessel and looked into the data base, they would have seen that there were rebels sealed up in asteroids somewhere, and they would have even found out the relative location. Also,had the war even started yet?

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The Human/Covenant war had not started yet. This is around 2530 I think. The Human/Covenant war began a few years later. But anyway the Covenant would not have learned anything about the Rebels because of The Cole Protocol (the only reason The Marines are on Halo!!). The protocol states (as Capt. Keyes quoted in the beginning)that "Capture of a ships AI (or data in this case) is unacceptable" (and actually punoshable by death) that is why Cortana has *All* of the ship data and history with her (she trashed all of it on the ship to keep the covenant from getting it). So the Covenant would not be able to get the data from this source or any other for that matter (interogation of people would be useless since most of the marines and Navy personel weren't even born then!! Remember the Human/Covenant War has been going on for about 30 years and the Marines and Navy personel are no older than 25 except the handfull of Senior officers. No one would know anything about the Rebels except for what they learned in school,Except for Capt. Keyes and a handfull of senior officers on the ship.

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Re: The Rebellion

The Rebels are probably written down in human history somewhere. And Guilty Spark learned about human history on the PoA (which the Covenant also happened to be on). Besides I don't think that the UNSC knew where many of the rebel bases were. If I were a rebel and the war had started I would have stayed quiet. I think there is a pretty good chance of the rebels surviving.

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I think the covenant would have known a rebelion started, because in tfor I dont remember in which part some oni spook mentioned they have learned their language and had been watching them closley for a some time, so they would have known there was a rebelion, and therfore search their bases

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Re: The Rebellion

Also though the reason the Spartans were created was to control the rebells so it should say somwhere in history that there was a big rebellion. But also if the covie didnt find out about the rebells and they didn't kill them, the rebells wounld have no one on any other planet to supply them with food or water. So eventually they would probly die.

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I don't even think the Covenant went from system to system wiping out the humans, they just hope that by taking out their most populated world, Earth, human morale would be low and people would fear that if their homeworld fell, so would theirs. That's probably why the Covenant are landing on Earth instead of glassing it (heating the surface to the point where nothing would survive), so than can determine the location of every human planet, outpost, and ship that exists.

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Re: The Rebellion

Lets not forget why the Covenant started this war in the first place,Because they believe that Humans are religiously,moral,and geneticaly disgusting.The Covenant feel that they are an interstellar exterminator spraying the galaxy to rid it of,as they see it, the human pest.They are on a Covenant "Jihad" so to speak.
They would destroy Earth and its inhabitants not for territory but for satisfaction. That is why they land on Earth rather than Glassing it. I mean come on we've been at war for almost thirty years now. I would think they feel they are intitled to Destroy the Capital of their Enemy.

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Hey guys, miss me? LOL

I haven't said much in a while, but that ends now that the E3 Demo has been revealed to the public.
First to start, THAT DEMO IS SOO UNBELEIVABLY AWESOME!!!!! THe graphics are so awsome compared to Halo 1. The detail is so cool. The game play looks great too. The Covenant have an entire new arsenal of vehicles and weapons while the humans do too. It would be so cool if the MC could pilot a phantom, but we'll have to wait and see.

I'd like to acknowledge that I made mistakes regarding predictions and wishes. The Brutes are just new units that the Covenant have, not possible human allies or another race that the Covenant are fighting (however a Brute rebellion seems possible Eye-wink). There are still no commands for the Marines, but hey that's no big deal. The Marines seem much smarter (they can drive the Warthogs now! YAY)

I still have a few questions though (and these are going to be annoying, but I'm going to post them anyway):
1) Where the heck are all the people in that city??? I mean come on! The Earth musthave tens of billions of people on it, so how has one city managed to be evacuated while the Earth is being bombarded like mad???

2) Why were the Marines on the dropship wearing those helmets that covered their whole head while the others where nothing but those same old, stupid helmets?

3) What the hell was with that highway, man? Yes, for some reason that big blast decided that it would be perfect to close the door at that moment when nothing was happening. (?????)

4) Why are there still no women Marines? (not to start a thing, but seriously.)

5) When those Elites drop from the sky (or orbit) are they in cryostasis or just in the pod? If you think about, reentry into a planet's atmopshere, iits pretty rough and if you're in a tin can, it won't be much better.

That's all for now. Halo 2 is going to be the best game EVER introduced to human kind EVER! Let's hope it will be resleased sooner than expected.

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Welcome back

You havent been on here in forever, welcome back.

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Re: Hey guys, miss me? LOL

heres the answers...

1) I heard the preview at the begining of the game the people run and some get caught and taken aboard a ship. But still theres no animals.

2) Well police have the SWAT team ( the 10 best cops in the world each year. So these are the top 5 best marines including MC.

3) Blast Doors this is the year 2552 ya know.

4) There are, in the 9 min. video weman are the doctors.

5) There aliens you never know what powers the have and besides the elites has those shields... REMEMBER

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ya, about that video (along w/ others)

HEY!, why isnt my video thing working? i have real one player, and none of the videos will play, can anyone help me w/ this?

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Re: ya, about that video (along w/ others)

9 min. movie is .wmv format so it only works with media player. also, i wanted to ask if anyone has seen a halo skin for windows media or windowsblinds?

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YAY SAMATIS BAK!!

YAY HES BACK, SAMATIES COOL

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Re: YAY SAMATIS BAK!!

Thank's for the welcome.

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The Rebellion

In The Fall of Reach you may remember the first mission of the newly formed Spartan soldiers was to capture the Comander of the outpost or base stationed on or rather inside an asteroid. What role will the Rebels have to play in the Human\Covenant War? If master chief,John or #117 whatever you choose to call him was to fail would these outposts be the only Human inhabited Areas in the Universe. And if so the Covenant would not know about them, Therefore Humans in fact would survive and possibly later on 100 years or so pose a guerrilla like war on the Covenant. A great story I think.

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Re: Hey guys, miss me? LOL

I have a possible explanation to your first question:

If you read The Fall of Reach you will remember that we can detect Covenant Battlegroups moving through Shaw-Fugikawa slipstream (slipspace. So We may have evacuated the entire planet. Its not as crazy as it sounds (they tried to evacuate Sigma Octanus IV,but were too late,Same thing with the military base called Reach).

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Re: Hey guys, miss me? LOL

The reason the marines on the dropship had the cool helmets may be because they're HellJumpers and get to have special equipment because they have rougher duties than the regular enlisted marine.A Dangerous job has it's privelileges.

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Welcome back

Welcome back Smiling

I can answer some of those questions for you :

1) The people in the city are probably all dead, but remember that that city was huge, and in that mission you only see a small part of it.

2) The marines with the new helmets are ODST's (Orbital Drop Shock Troops - from the Halo book). They are tougher than the regular marines, and they wear less-powerful versions of the Chief's armor.

3) I thought I saw the Chief hit a button somewhere inside the tunnel to close the gate. However, it was right after the smoke so I cant be sure.

4) No Idea...

5) Those Elites probably have padding inside their pods. I doubt they are in stasis, because such a harsh revival would be very disorienting.

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Re: Welcome back

Where can i get the demo?!!!!!!
e-mail me at rebelion@rock.com

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Umm....

When you go to rampancy.net..... in the news section there's a thing called a LINK. Use what we "the mouse" and "click" on the link.

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Re: Umm....

The big sign over the highway reads
'highway access denied' or something, presumably you have to pay or something, and the blast doors close automatically

also dont forget the covenant have very advanced technology - they may have better heat resistant materials

DF

p.s. narcogen, if you read this why does it still say 'new' next to the halo 2 forum link at the side of the page

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Michel je bent raar

Michel ik moet even kwijt:
Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!!

(for the people who don't understand the above text: you can be glad you don't Eye-wink )

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Re: Michel je bent raar

Stefan, je bent raarerder dan ik, dit had je ook gewoon op MSN kunnen zeggen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!

yo Soy Un Aqua Sel Porgay Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!! Yo Necissito Freeo Refresco!!! Rapido Seniorita
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Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!

Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos???

right... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN!!

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Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!

Lamaman wrote on Friday, 06/13/2003 - 8:31 am:

: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos???
:
: right... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN!!

I think I might be able to translate this...

Yo Necissito= i don't know
Un Laxante = something with shit (laxeren?)
Dispace me= I don't know
Me comiere Me Amigos=like my friends

en michel, je bent raardererer dan ik.

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Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!

WTF

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Damn Failures

Wow....I leave for a month and this forum turns to freaking anarchy....
Oh well...
This is what that means :

Yo Necesito = I need...
Un Laxante = A Laxative...
Dispace = Dunno but thats not spanish... mebbe means to take a crap
Me Comiere = I will eat...
Me Amigos = My friends....

Problem with this sentence is...the idiot who wrote it cant write in spanish....

Oh well thats just me-
Signing off - ManWithaCrystalMethod

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thanks! now can you tell me what " Michel ik moet even kwijt:
Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!! " means? PS: you ppl need to speak english Laughing out loud

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Blackdragon wrote on Tuesday, 07/8/2003 - 4:24 am:

: thanks! now can you tell me what " Michel ik moet even
: kwijt:
: Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!! " means? PS: you ppl
: need to speak english Laughing out loud

It means: " Michel (that's me) I have to say this: You're posts are INCREDIBLY long!!!! "
and no, it's not French, not Italian, not Spanish, it's just Dutch, a great but weird language.

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Halo 2 Video Impressions?

Just so everybody knows-- we're generally following the lead at HBO with regard to the recent set of Halo 2 videos.

Whether or not it looks like those sites (IGN and GameSpot, etc) were supposed to tape the demo, they seem to have intended it only for subscribers, so we won't be posting direct links or mirror lists here.

However, I think that, hook or by crook, lots of people have already seen it (we won't say how or where).

So... what do people think?


Narcogen

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Hi res heaven . Truly a great revolution in gaming.

If I was Sony I would say that the first day of the PS2's life to now was a complete waste....because there is no denying it this single demo is about hundred times better than the BEST games that ever existed on the PS2. It is that good and delicious. If I was at Microsoft I would dream at night atmaking love to Laetitia casta bacause the king of four-eye geekdom has finally given the xbox a bright future ahead of the PS2. I thought the Xbox could not outdo what appeared at launch but now I take that back. Vastly superior First party titles, better online service and third party people sony signed deals with abandoning them will see the fall of the PS2 in short order. lalalalal Hey hey hey goodbye.

Lets see the Xbox is going to see Doom III and Half life II. Has two monster developers Rareware and Bungie and a relatively potential great developer, Digital Anvil that pass info back and forth between themselves to make their games look incredible. Sony has no good First party developers to rely on, I can only think of former artist Known as SingleTrac, AKA Incognito Sudios and they to will eventually be swallowed up by the Bill Gates glass nerd empire (Twisted metal Xbox soon). And Rockstar and Square will soon sign off on the PS2 leaving Sony exposed as a old fragile naked man.

I am making a guesstimate..... I say Bungie will sell about Fifteen million to twenty million copies of Halo II and it will sit right next to Mario III(NES)or Mario world (SNES) as the biggest known and selling game of all time or may actually be the biggest game of all time period!!!!!!. Bungie, the studio I know for Myth and Oni has hit the big time. Yeah!!!!!!

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This video did enough to impress me. it was more than another "looks better thus should be more fun to play" type of game. and it didn't strike me as Halo1 with a few upgrades.

the one thing I always missed about Halo 1, that was shown in the earlier trailers of the game, was the abilities to fight over wide open landscapes. I always wanted to have tank and mortar battles that spanned canyons and across gorges with bridges. instead what we got were islands and a few 1/2 mile long multi player maps.

this game, from what this trailer shows, seems to be stacking up to be far more open and varied. multiple levels within buildings, buildings that you can shoot from one to the other...if there were to be a multi player map of this size, you could do a few 8v8 urban sniper wars that lasted 24 hours. and with that, you'll be able to take up a true "sniper position", where you're hidden in a remote and high building window or ledge, not in like in Halo1 where you sat on the edge of a wall and took as many shots as you could before someone killed you.

the simple ability to SNEAK from one side of the map to the other may be able to be pulled off in this. in Halo1 multi-player that always involved more luck than actual sneaking skill.

wide open street battles look extremely fun as well...I always thought a few mods for Halo where you'd be able to have jeep races would be great...but again, due to the lack of outdoor areas, that never really happened.

yes yes of course there are new weapons, new bad guys, and other stuff, and those are all well and good, but not really worth going off about Smiling

though there are things that have been added that stick out in my mind. taking over vehicles, very very good. though I still would like to see the MC pick up a Ghost with an elite in it and toss it into another ghost Smiling

dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on the MC for holding two guns at once.

How about the combo attack the MC lays on the Brute, anyone notice that? he makes a left-right slap at him, and finishes it with an upthrust at his chest/head with the butt up his gun. I wonder if pulling off 3 straight attacks in a row actually does more damage, or if it's just for looks.

oh dear I can't wait...too bad I'll be out of the country when it's released Sad

Earendil

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Re: Daddy Likes

Earendil wrote on Friday, 05/16/2003 - 6:09 pm:

: dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait
: to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
: I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on
: the MC for holding two guns at once.

the disadvantage, is that you cannot throw greanades! you press the button that changes the greanade type, and put in another weapon instead.

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Re: Daddy Likes

does anyone know if you will be able to drive
a) the wraiths
b) the big plane things in the E3 trailer
that would be so cool as it was a little disappointing that i couldnt drive a wraith
also how big is the battle rifle scope?
it looks smaller than sniper but more than pistol
DF

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Re: video impressions

The ingame cinemnas were terrific, the gameplay footage was equally stunning.....but I hated the Low res of video monitor they used for the show, it made the game look to too dark.....Dammit all. Why did'nt they use a better quality high res display.
But other than that it was perfect.

I saw a covenant mortar tank, artillery piece and human bomber aircraft, making me wonder are these vehicles really playable in the single player and multiplayer modes????????? please be!!!!!.

So the controllable vehicles in multiplayer are: the banshee(Yeeehhhhh!!!!!!!!!), the scorpion tank,the shadow patrol vehicle, all them different warthogs, the AFV, the ghost hoverbike and possible the plasma mortar tank, some artillery piece and a human bomber aircraft and even transport planes and more we don't know about.

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