the beams dont go to the other side of halo. They dissapear about 500 feet away from the ground like almost everything in the game. Plasma riffles blasts dont go on forever, they just dissapear and thats it. and sometimes i think people get way to far into this game. The only way you'll ever figure out what there ment for is to email some people at bungie.
In reply to: Thers really nothing about those beams
They wouldn't tell anyway, that's not the Bungie style :)
CRoBiNsOn wrote on Monday, 05/12/2003 - 9:38 pm:
: the beams dont go to the other side of halo. They
: dissapear about 500 feet away from the ground like almost
: everything in the game. Plasma riffles blasts dont go on
: forever, they just dissapear and thats it. and sometimes i
: think people get way to far into this game. The only way
: you'll ever figure out what there ment for is to email some
: people at bungie.
:
:
:
: :
:
In reply to: Re: Thers really nothing about those beams
They are for communication, and as Halo is spinning, the destination of the charges moves out the way of the plasma charge. therefore there needs to be someone / something to adjust it to reach it's destination. It's like throwing a paper airplane perpendicular to the wind direction. You cannot simply throw it in the same direction all the time, you will need to throw it against the wind. then if the wind dies down, you will need to throw it i the original direction and so on, so it will reach the correct destination. I hope I've cleared this up for you, and STOP DISCUSSING THIS MATTER!!!
In reply to: There's really something about those beams
MC_NC wrote on Friday, 05/16/2003 - 6:59 am:
: They are for communication, and as Halo is spinning, the
: destination of the charges moves out the way of the plasma
: charge. therefore there needs to be someone / something to
: adjust it to reach it's destination. It's like throwing a
: paper airplane perpendicular to the wind direction. You
: cannot simply throw it in the same direction all the time,
: you will need to throw it against the wind. then if the wind
: dies down, you will need to throw it i the original
: direction and so on, so it will reach the correct
: destination. I hope I've cleared this up for you, and STOP
: DISCUSSING THIS MATTER!!!
or maybe bungie just thought
hey! it would look cool to have big blue flare things shooting up
why does everything have to be so complicated
sorry if i spoiled ur fun
In reply to: Re: There's really something about those beams
What if they WERE firing at the PoA? The Covenant may have landed on Halo long b4 the marines did and began firing the beams to help take down the PoA.....remember when Cortana said on SC ...I underestimated the Covenants understanding of Halos systems......
.....: ring and that is why on the last level, all you see is a
: wasteland as a result of those cannons constantly hitting in
: that area.....
I think the reason this is a wasteland is becuase of the sheer force the PoAcreated when it landed on Halo, making a big firey burning shockwave, incinerating everything, also if you look at it, the big trailing smear ehind the PoA is a big scorch mark...thats my 2c....
Any one notice that in the beggining of the level after the first dropship lands and u just took care of the first squard of covies, u know rite before that small jump leading 2 the marines? well if u listen carefully u can hear birds chirping... what are BIRDS doing on halo? just a thought... and 4 some reason the clock on my computer must be screwed up... or something
I have noticed that you actually do not see that the beam comes anywhere close to the other end, it just disappeares, maybe it burns up like the plasma shots from plasma weapons...
But i also think it is some kind of function for the final weapon of Halo, like the beams from different parts of Halo must hit each other in the middle of Halo and form a great sort of plasma beam to be shot out in space.
: I have noticed that you actually do not see that the beam
: comes anywhere close to the other end, it just disappeares,
: maybe it burns up like the plasma shots from plasma
: weapons...
:
: But i also think it is some kind of function for the final
: weapon of Halo, like the beams from different parts of Halo
: must hit each other in the middle of Halo and form a great
: sort of plasma beam to be shot out in space.
maybe so, but, i think its just a signal flare, lol, you will probably laugh when u read this........and, well then again, it could be a scource of food, who knows, just ask one of the game designers, god o mighty, you ppl make a big deal about one little thing......lmfao
Just so everybody knows-- we're generally following the lead at HBO with regard to the recent set of Halo 2 videos.
Whether or not it looks like those sites (IGN and GameSpot, etc) were supposed to tape the demo, they seem to have intended it only for subscribers, so we won't be posting direct links or mirror lists here.
However, I think that, hook or by crook, lots of people have already seen it (we won't say how or where).
I think the graphics are cool and all but it doesn't really tell you anything about the game, but i guess that is the point. (to make you more interested)
Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight, the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more fun than any other game ever made.
Oracle222 wrote on Thursday, 05/15/2003 - 1:37 am:
: Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of
: Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire
: level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of
: gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were
: un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far
: exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If
: bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with
: all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in
: this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my
: TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight,
: the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely
: cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects
: are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the
: destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a
: twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more
: fun than any other game ever made.
I havn't seen it, but going from your discription,
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD is all I can say:)
Oracle222 wrote on Thursday, 05/15/2003 - 1:37 am:
: Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of
: Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire
: level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of
: gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were
: un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far
: exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If
: bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with
: all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in
: this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my
: TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight,
: the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely
: cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects
: are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the
: destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a
: twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more
: fun than any other game ever made.
I thought they were all right (I've only seen the one when the MC steals the Ghost). The game looks so much better. Interesting to see how Bungie pictures Earth hundreds of years from. I think it's annoying though how IGN has to make you join them so u can see more. Stupid corporate greed....
No, sorry man. I found the video in a forum shortly after the announcement of its release, (dont even remember which one) and the link was shortly deleted after I downloaded it.
here is a link to download the complete Halo 2 trailer. Just scroll down halfway and youll see a link that says www.afclan.com/halo2demo.mov, just right click save as
This video did enough to impress me. it was more than another "looks better thus should be more fun to play" type of game. and it didn't strike me as Halo1 with a few upgrades.
the one thing I always missed about Halo 1, that was shown in the earlier trailers of the game, was the abilities to fight over wide open landscapes. I always wanted to have tank and mortar battles that spanned canyons and across gorges with bridges. instead what we got were islands and a few 1/2 mile long multi player maps.
this game, from what this trailer shows, seems to be stacking up to be far more open and varied. multiple levels within buildings, buildings that you can shoot from one to the other...if there were to be a multi player map of this size, you could do a few 8v8 urban sniper wars that lasted 24 hours. and with that, you'll be able to take up a true "sniper position", where you're hidden in a remote and high building window or ledge, not in like in Halo1 where you sat on the edge of a wall and took as many shots as you could before someone killed you.
the simple ability to SNEAK from one side of the map to the other may be able to be pulled off in this. in Halo1 multi-player that always involved more luck than actual sneaking skill.
wide open street battles look extremely fun as well...I always thought a few mods for Halo where you'd be able to have jeep races would be great...but again, due to the lack of outdoor areas, that never really happened.
yes yes of course there are new weapons, new bad guys, and other stuff, and those are all well and good, but not really worth going off about :)
though there are things that have been added that stick out in my mind. taking over vehicles, very very good. though I still would like to see the MC pick up a Ghost with an elite in it and toss it into another ghost :)
dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on the MC for holding two guns at once.
How about the combo attack the MC lays on the Brute, anyone notice that? he makes a left-right slap at him, and finishes it with an upthrust at his chest/head with the butt up his gun. I wonder if pulling off 3 straight attacks in a row actually does more damage, or if it's just for looks.
oh dear I can't wait...too bad I'll be out of the country when it's released :(
For the most part, I agree with you on your points. The maps are a really big deal when it comes to halo. Halo was and probably will be more restricted than we all once thought it would be. The rolling hills and mountains have been abandoned for a more crowded, hectic battle-field. However, in the map shown in this trailer, the landscape seems to be pretty huge while combining a crowded city atmosphere. The result: big and chaotic. Also, if you guys remember the days of marathon, crowded places can have more twists and surprises than a wide open landscape. One thing that I noticed on this demo that I thought was absolutely insane was... No load times. there were no checkpoints or slight glitches of load time like we had seen in Halo1. Maybe a cutscene somehow incorporates the load times for each level? Anyway, on another note, yes those dual machine guns were awesome. I want to see a couple of revolver action twin barrell shotguns like I had in marathon 2 ;) that would be sweet.
Probable penalties imposed by dual weapon use:
-you can't throw grenades, that hand has a gun!
-accuracy is decreased because you're not holding the gun with
both hands (in HALO, MC held all guns w/ both hands, right?)
-your melee attack(s) may be slower, weaker, and/or less accurate
-reloading may not be possible until you drop one weapon, or at
least will be greatly slowed
-pistols, the needler and the SMG might be the only weapons you can
use two of
-in HALO you could only carry two weapons, so if you double up, that
might be both of your weapons!
-even if carrying two of the same weapon doesn't count against your
total, or the total is increased, that doesn't neccissarily(sp?)
mean you can carry twice as much of that type of ammo
Those are just some possible restriction imposed by two weapon use. However, since you probably can't use grenades, that would mean the left trigger would control your second gun. Imagine walking around with two overcharged plasma pistols, and being able to unload either one whenever you wanted to! Or even just using two plasma rifles, letting loose with one until it overheats, then opening up with the second while the first one cools! That could mean an unending rain of plasma, and the elimination of the biggest drawback to plasma weapons. But it could get messier if you can use two different weapons at once. How about letting loose with stunning plasma rifle fire as you close to unleash a clip of needles? Heh heh, now there's a thought.
The ingame cinemnas were terrific, the gameplay footage was equally stunning.....but I hated the Low res of video monitor they used for the show, it made the game look to too dark.....Dammit all. Why did'nt they use a better quality high res display.
But other than that it was perfect.
I saw a covenant mortar tank, artillery piece and human bomber aircraft, making me wonder are these vehicles really playable in the single player and multiplayer modes????????? please be!!!!!.
So the controllable vehicles in multiplayer are: the banshee(Yeeehhhhh!!!!!!!!!), the scorpion tank,the shadow patrol vehicle, all them different warthogs, the AFV, the ghost hoverbike and possible the plasma mortar tank, some artillery piece and a human bomber aircraft and even transport planes and more we don't know about.
I don't think it was the monitor that was bad, I think it was the fact that someone had a DV camera and recorded it as it played., but it's better than nothing.
Oh and BTW, if u noticed, the dropship the MC is transported on is different from Echo 419 or any of the other dropships.
Well, this is all I can be sure of from seeing the video:
- Double weapons seems to be limited to pistol sised weapons, like the SMG, since the MC later switched from the 2 SMGs to 1 (new) rife.
- The new rifle has a slower rate of fire, but has 2x zoom (like pistol) and can get headshots.
- The warthogs now have a new weapon, appears to be either a cannon or laser, it has a slight reload time, but it is accurate and instanteneously damaging. Also, now your fellow marines will drive for you, and will do it WELL.
- Your fellow marines will do more than stand around, and seem to follow their own set nav points and objectives.
- The lighting is insanely good. Definatly using the Xbox to its fullest. Other effects incluse smoke from weapons, especially the dual SMGs.
- Environments seem to be a lot more destructable, with some nice explodable cars, containers, etc.
- Enemys are uglier. Yeah.
- Cut scenes and gaming transitions are a lot smoother, no visable loading, but they could've just edited that out of the tape.
blackmaff wrote on Saturday, 05/24/2003 - 9:35 am:
: it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on had a
: rocket launcher not a chain gun
: (E3 video)
:
: Can anyone confirm this?
yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on the jeep. check out bungie.com
: blackmaff wrote on Saturday, 05/24/2003 - 9:35 am:
:
: : it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on had
: a
: : rocket launcher not a chain gun
: : (E3 video)
: :
: : Can anyone confirm this?
: yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on the
: jeep. check out bungie.com
Yeah the warthog the MC was on had a beefier slower gun but if you look in the video at another warthog driving around a marine is shooting a chain gun from it so the warthogs have different weapons.
: : : it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on
: had
: : a
: : : rocket launcher not a chain gun
: : : (E3 video)
: : :
: : : Can anyone confirm this?
: : yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on
: the
: : jeep. check out bungie.com
:
: Yeah the warthog the MC was on had a beefier slower gun
: but if you look in the video at another warthog driving
: around a marine is shooting a chain gun from it so the
: warthogs have different weapons.
Looking at the video for the umpteenth time you can see that the weapon MC uses is definitely Human (Orange-yellow trace lines) but that it is not a rocket launcher. It could be a gauss cannon but that would probably be energy based and not make sense as the gun uses human ammo. The weapon is double barreled as you can see from the alternate flashback report positions but beyond that you really can't tell what the ammo is as it moves too fast to be a rocket.
: dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait
: to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
: I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on
: the MC for holding two guns at once.
the disadvantage, is that you cannot throw greanades! you press the button that changes the greanade type, and put in another weapon instead.
does anyone know if you will be able to drive
a) the wraiths
b) the big plane things in the E3 trailer
that would be so cool as it was a little disappointing that i couldnt drive a wraith
also how big is the battle rifle scope?
it looks smaller than sniper but more than pistol
DF
If I was Sony I would say that the first day of the PS2's life to now was a complete waste....because there is no denying it this single demo is about hundred times better than the BEST games that ever existed on the PS2. It is that good and delicious. If I was at Microsoft I would dream at night atmaking love to Laetitia casta bacause the king of four-eye geekdom has finally given the xbox a bright future ahead of the PS2. I thought the Xbox could not outdo what appeared at launch but now I take that back. Vastly superior First party titles, better online service and third party people sony signed deals with abandoning them will see the fall of the PS2 in short order. lalalalal Hey hey hey goodbye.
Lets see the Xbox is going to see Doom III and Half life II. Has two monster developers Rareware and Bungie and a relatively potential great developer, Digital Anvil that pass info back and forth between themselves to make their games look incredible. Sony has no good First party developers to rely on, I can only think of former artist Known as SingleTrac, AKA Incognito Sudios and they to will eventually be swallowed up by the Bill Gates glass nerd empire (Twisted metal Xbox soon). And Rockstar and Square will soon sign off on the PS2 leaving Sony exposed as a old fragile naked man.
I am making a guesstimate..... I say Bungie will sell about Fifteen million to twenty million copies of Halo II and it will sit right next to Mario III(NES)or Mario world (SNES) as the biggest known and selling game of all time or may actually be the biggest game of all time period!!!!!!. Bungie, the studio I know for Myth and Oni has hit the big time. Yeah!!!!!!
yo Soy Un Aqua Sel Porgay Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!! Yo Necissito Freeo Refresco!!! Rapido Seniorita
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In reply to: Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!
Wow....I leave for a month and this forum turns to freaking anarchy....
Oh well...
This is what that means :
Yo Necesito = I need...
Un Laxante = A Laxative...
Dispace = Dunno but thats not spanish... mebbe means to take a crap
Me Comiere = I will eat...
Me Amigos = My friends....
Problem with this sentence is...the idiot who wrote it cant write in spanish....
Oh well thats just me-
Signing off - ManWithaCrystalMethod
Blackdragon wrote on Tuesday, 07/8/2003 - 4:24 am:
: thanks! now can you tell me what " Michel ik moet even
: kwijt:
: Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!! " means? PS: you ppl
: need to speak english :D
It means: " Michel (that's me) I have to say this: You're posts are INCREDIBLY long!!!! "
and no, it's not French, not Italian, not Spanish, it's just Dutch, a great but weird language.
I haven't said much in a while, but that ends now that the E3 Demo has been revealed to the public.
First to start, THAT DEMO IS SOO UNBELEIVABLY AWESOME!!!!! THe graphics are so awsome compared to Halo 1. The detail is so cool. The game play looks great too. The Covenant have an entire new arsenal of vehicles and weapons while the humans do too. It would be so cool if the MC could pilot a phantom, but we'll have to wait and see.
I'd like to acknowledge that I made mistakes regarding predictions and wishes. The Brutes are just new units that the Covenant have, not possible human allies or another race that the Covenant are fighting (however a Brute rebellion seems possible ;-)). There are still no commands for the Marines, but hey that's no big deal. The Marines seem much smarter (they can drive the Warthogs now! YAY)
I still have a few questions though (and these are going to be annoying, but I'm going to post them anyway):
1) Where the heck are all the people in that city??? I mean come on! The Earth musthave tens of billions of people on it, so how has one city managed to be evacuated while the Earth is being bombarded like mad???
2) Why were the Marines on the dropship wearing those helmets that covered their whole head while the others where nothing but those same old, stupid helmets?
3) What the hell was with that highway, man? Yes, for some reason that big blast decided that it would be perfect to close the door at that moment when nothing was happening. (?????)
4) Why are there still no women Marines? (not to start a thing, but seriously.)
5) When those Elites drop from the sky (or orbit) are they in cryostasis or just in the pod? If you think about, reentry into a planet's atmopshere, iits pretty rough and if you're in a tin can, it won't be much better.
That's all for now. Halo 2 is going to be the best game EVER introduced to human kind EVER! Let's hope it will be resleased sooner than expected.
1) The people in the city are probably all dead, but remember that that city was huge, and in that mission you only see a small part of it.
2) The marines with the new helmets are ODST's (Orbital Drop Shock Troops - from the Halo book). They are tougher than the regular marines, and they wear less-powerful versions of the Chief's armor.
3) I thought I saw the Chief hit a button somewhere inside the tunnel to close the gate. However, it was right after the smoke so I cant be sure.
4) No Idea...
5) Those Elites probably have padding inside their pods. I doubt they are in stasis, because such a harsh revival would be very disorienting.
Comments
Anonymous (not verified)
Thers really nothing about those beams
In reply to: Re: Heres what I think it isthe beams dont go to the other side of halo. They dissapear about 500 feet away from the ground like almost everything in the game. Plasma riffles blasts dont go on forever, they just dissapear and thats it. and sometimes i think people get way to far into this game. The only way you'll ever figure out what there ment for is to email some people at bungie.
:
narcogen
Re: Thers really nothing about those beams
In reply to: Thers really nothing about those beamsThey wouldn't tell anyway, that's not the Bungie style :)
CRoBiNsOn wrote on Monday, 05/12/2003 - 9:38 pm:
: the beams dont go to the other side of halo. They
: dissapear about 500 feet away from the ground like almost
: everything in the game. Plasma riffles blasts dont go on
: forever, they just dissapear and thats it. and sometimes i
: think people get way to far into this game. The only way
: you'll ever figure out what there ment for is to email some
: people at bungie.
:
:
:
: :
:
Narcogen
Anonymous (not verified)
There's really something about those beams
In reply to: Re: Thers really nothing about those beamsThey are for communication, and as Halo is spinning, the destination of the charges moves out the way of the plasma charge. therefore there needs to be someone / something to adjust it to reach it's destination. It's like throwing a paper airplane perpendicular to the wind direction. You cannot simply throw it in the same direction all the time, you will need to throw it against the wind. then if the wind dies down, you will need to throw it i the original direction and so on, so it will reach the correct destination. I hope I've cleared this up for you, and STOP DISCUSSING THIS MATTER!!!
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: There's really something about those beams
In reply to: There's really something about those beamsMC_NC wrote on Friday, 05/16/2003 - 6:59 am:
: They are for communication, and as Halo is spinning, the
: destination of the charges moves out the way of the plasma
: charge. therefore there needs to be someone / something to
: adjust it to reach it's destination. It's like throwing a
: paper airplane perpendicular to the wind direction. You
: cannot simply throw it in the same direction all the time,
: you will need to throw it against the wind. then if the wind
: dies down, you will need to throw it i the original
: direction and so on, so it will reach the correct
: destination. I hope I've cleared this up for you, and STOP
: DISCUSSING THIS MATTER!!!
Why are you so sure your answers right?
Anonymous (not verified)
Exhaust?
In reply to: Re: There's really something about those beamsMaybe they are just exhaust pipes...
The aren't weapons, or they wouldnt fire all the time...
blackmaff
Re: Exhaust?
In reply to: Exhaust?or maybe bungie just thought
hey! it would look cool to have big blue flare things shooting up
why does everything have to be so complicated
sorry if i spoiled ur fun
Anonymous (not verified)
Another theory about the beams...
In reply to: Re: There's really something about those beamsWhat if they WERE firing at the PoA? The Covenant may have landed on Halo long b4 the marines did and began firing the beams to help take down the PoA.....remember when Cortana said on SC ...I underestimated the Covenants understanding of Halos systems......
Thats my other 2c....
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Heres what I think it is
In reply to: Heres what I think it isIdolon wrote on Saturday, 05/10/2003 - 12:02 pm:
.....: ring and that is why on the last level, all you see is a
: wasteland as a result of those cannons constantly hitting in
: that area.....
I think the reason this is a wasteland is becuase of the sheer force the PoAcreated when it landed on Halo, making a big firey burning shockwave, incinerating everything, also if you look at it, the big trailing smear ehind the PoA is a big scorch mark...thats my 2c....
Anonymous (not verified)
Birds
In reply to: Re: Heres what I think it isAny one notice that in the beggining of the level after the first dropship lands and u just took care of the first squard of covies, u know rite before that small jump leading 2 the marines? well if u listen carefully u can hear birds chirping... what are BIRDS doing on halo? just a thought... and 4 some reason the clock on my computer must be screwed up... or something
Anonymous (not verified)
time
In reply to: Birdsnvm wat i said about my clock
Anonymous (not verified)
I have noticed
In reply to: Re: Heres what I think it isI have noticed that you actually do not see that the beam comes anywhere close to the other end, it just disappeares, maybe it burns up like the plasma shots from plasma weapons...
But i also think it is some kind of function for the final weapon of Halo, like the beams from different parts of Halo must hit each other in the middle of Halo and form a great sort of plasma beam to be shot out in space.
Blackdragon
Re: I have noticed
In reply to: I have noticedSekk wrote on Wednesday, 06/11/2003 - 8:47 am:
: I have noticed that you actually do not see that the beam
: comes anywhere close to the other end, it just disappeares,
: maybe it burns up like the plasma shots from plasma
: weapons...
:
: But i also think it is some kind of function for the final
: weapon of Halo, like the beams from different parts of Halo
: must hit each other in the middle of Halo and form a great
: sort of plasma beam to be shot out in space.
maybe so, but, i think its just a signal flare, lol, you will probably laugh when u read this........and, well then again, it could be a scource of food, who knows, just ask one of the game designers, god o mighty, you ppl make a big deal about one little thing......lmfao
narcogen
Halo 2 Video Impressions?
Just so everybody knows-- we're generally following the lead at HBO with regard to the recent set of Halo 2 videos.
Whether or not it looks like those sites (IGN and GameSpot, etc) were supposed to tape the demo, they seem to have intended it only for subscribers, so we won't be posting direct links or mirror lists here.
However, I think that, hook or by crook, lots of people have already seen it (we won't say how or where).
So... what do people think?
Narcogen
Lamaman
Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?
In reply to: Halo 2 Video Impressions?Those movies Rock The World, too bad they'r so short.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?
In reply to: Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?I think the graphics are cool and all but it doesn't really tell you anything about the game, but i guess that is the point. (to make you more interested)
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?
In reply to: Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight, the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more fun than any other game ever made.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?
In reply to: Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?Oracle222 wrote on Thursday, 05/15/2003 - 1:37 am:
: Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of
: Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire
: level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of
: gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were
: un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far
: exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If
: bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with
: all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in
: this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my
: TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight,
: the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely
: cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects
: are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the
: destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a
: twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more
: fun than any other game ever made.
I havn't seen it, but going from your discription,
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD is all I can say:)
narcogen
Then I'd guess
In reply to: Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?So... I'm guessing you liked it?
Oracle222 wrote on Thursday, 05/15/2003 - 1:37 am:
: Ok.. Apparently you guys have not seen the E3 video of
: Halo2. It is not short and it shows practically an entire
: level of gameplay. Cutscene in the beginning, tons of
: gameplay, cutscene at the end. All of which were
: un-freaking believable. The graphics and gameplay far
: exceed anything I was even dreaming of out of this game. If
: bungie does every level as action packed, chop-filled with
: all the eye candy and awesome interaction that is seen in
: this level... I dont know how I would ever get away from my
: TV. To sum it up.. The MC is badass, the brutes are tight,
: the graphics are unparalleled, the new guns are extremely
: cool, the new vehicles rock the house, the lighting effects
: are brilliant, the level designs are extremely wicked, the
: destructable landscapes look more fun to crunch into than a
: twix bar, and overall - this game looks like it will be more
: fun than any other game ever made.
Narcogen
Ishamael
NT. The king of understatement. :)
In reply to: Then I'd guessNT = No Text, fool!
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?
In reply to: Halo 2 Video Impressions?I thought they were all right (I've only seen the one when the MC steals the Ghost). The game looks so much better. Interesting to see how Bungie pictures Earth hundreds of years from. I think it's annoying though how IGN has to make you join them so u can see more. Stupid corporate greed....
Anonymous (not verified)
looking for the new E3 Halo 2 videos
In reply to: Re: Halo 2 Video Impressions?hey, guys, can you point me to a website that has the new videos for free?
Anonymous (not verified)
to Oracle222
In reply to: Halo 2 Video Impressions?i cannot find a good site to view this gamplay footage of halo 2 could you tell me?
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: to Oracle222
In reply to: to Oracle222No, sorry man. I found the video in a forum shortly after the announcement of its release, (dont even remember which one) and the link was shortly deleted after I downloaded it.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: to Oracle222
In reply to: Re: to Oracle222here is a link to download the complete Halo 2 trailer. Just scroll down halfway and youll see a link that says www.afclan.com/halo2demo.mov, just right click save as
Lamaman
I downloaded the entire 8 min
In reply to: to Oracle222I downloaded the entire 8 minute demo from kazaa,
all i can say is:
HOLY PIGS,
HALO 2 IS GONNA
RULE THE WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!
Earendil
Daddy Likes
In reply to: Halo 2 Video Impressions?This video did enough to impress me. it was more than another "looks better thus should be more fun to play" type of game. and it didn't strike me as Halo1 with a few upgrades.
the one thing I always missed about Halo 1, that was shown in the earlier trailers of the game, was the abilities to fight over wide open landscapes. I always wanted to have tank and mortar battles that spanned canyons and across gorges with bridges. instead what we got were islands and a few 1/2 mile long multi player maps.
this game, from what this trailer shows, seems to be stacking up to be far more open and varied. multiple levels within buildings, buildings that you can shoot from one to the other...if there were to be a multi player map of this size, you could do a few 8v8 urban sniper wars that lasted 24 hours. and with that, you'll be able to take up a true "sniper position", where you're hidden in a remote and high building window or ledge, not in like in Halo1 where you sat on the edge of a wall and took as many shots as you could before someone killed you.
the simple ability to SNEAK from one side of the map to the other may be able to be pulled off in this. in Halo1 multi-player that always involved more luck than actual sneaking skill.
wide open street battles look extremely fun as well...I always thought a few mods for Halo where you'd be able to have jeep races would be great...but again, due to the lack of outdoor areas, that never really happened.
yes yes of course there are new weapons, new bad guys, and other stuff, and those are all well and good, but not really worth going off about :)
though there are things that have been added that stick out in my mind. taking over vehicles, very very good. though I still would like to see the MC pick up a Ghost with an elite in it and toss it into another ghost :)
dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on the MC for holding two guns at once.
How about the combo attack the MC lays on the Brute, anyone notice that? he makes a left-right slap at him, and finishes it with an upthrust at his chest/head with the butt up his gun. I wonder if pulling off 3 straight attacks in a row actually does more damage, or if it's just for looks.
oh dear I can't wait...too bad I'll be out of the country when it's released :(
Earendil
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Daddy Likes
In reply to: Daddy LikesFor the most part, I agree with you on your points. The maps are a really big deal when it comes to halo. Halo was and probably will be more restricted than we all once thought it would be. The rolling hills and mountains have been abandoned for a more crowded, hectic battle-field. However, in the map shown in this trailer, the landscape seems to be pretty huge while combining a crowded city atmosphere. The result: big and chaotic. Also, if you guys remember the days of marathon, crowded places can have more twists and surprises than a wide open landscape. One thing that I noticed on this demo that I thought was absolutely insane was... No load times. there were no checkpoints or slight glitches of load time like we had seen in Halo1. Maybe a cutscene somehow incorporates the load times for each level? Anyway, on another note, yes those dual machine guns were awesome. I want to see a couple of revolver action twin barrell shotguns like I had in marathon 2 ;) that would be sweet.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Daddy Likes
In reply to: Re: Daddy LikesProbable penalties imposed by dual weapon use:
-you can't throw grenades, that hand has a gun!
-accuracy is decreased because you're not holding the gun with
both hands (in HALO, MC held all guns w/ both hands, right?)
-your melee attack(s) may be slower, weaker, and/or less accurate
-reloading may not be possible until you drop one weapon, or at
least will be greatly slowed
-pistols, the needler and the SMG might be the only weapons you can
use two of
-in HALO you could only carry two weapons, so if you double up, that
might be both of your weapons!
-even if carrying two of the same weapon doesn't count against your
total, or the total is increased, that doesn't neccissarily(sp?)
mean you can carry twice as much of that type of ammo
Those are just some possible restriction imposed by two weapon use. However, since you probably can't use grenades, that would mean the left trigger would control your second gun. Imagine walking around with two overcharged plasma pistols, and being able to unload either one whenever you wanted to! Or even just using two plasma rifles, letting loose with one until it overheats, then opening up with the second while the first one cools! That could mean an unending rain of plasma, and the elimination of the biggest drawback to plasma weapons. But it could get messier if you can use two different weapons at once. How about letting loose with stunning plasma rifle fire as you close to unleash a clip of needles? Heh heh, now there's a thought.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: video impressions
In reply to: Daddy LikesThe ingame cinemnas were terrific, the gameplay footage was equally stunning.....but I hated the Low res of video monitor they used for the show, it made the game look to too dark.....Dammit all. Why did'nt they use a better quality high res display.
But other than that it was perfect.
I saw a covenant mortar tank, artillery piece and human bomber aircraft, making me wonder are these vehicles really playable in the single player and multiplayer modes????????? please be!!!!!.
So the controllable vehicles in multiplayer are: the banshee(Yeeehhhhh!!!!!!!!!), the scorpion tank,the shadow patrol vehicle, all them different warthogs, the AFV, the ghost hoverbike and possible the plasma mortar tank, some artillery piece and a human bomber aircraft and even transport planes and more we don't know about.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: video impressions
In reply to: Re: video impressionsI don't think it was the monitor that was bad, I think it was the fact that someone had a DV camera and recorded it as it played., but it's better than nothing.
Oh and BTW, if u noticed, the dropship the MC is transported on is different from Echo 419 or any of the other dropships.
blackmaff
Re: video impressions
In reply to: Re: video impressionsit looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on had a rocket launcher not a chain gun
(E3 video)
Can anyone confirm this?
also will you be able to kick people off ghosts in game?
and the driving marine was pretty cool too
DF
Anonymous (not verified)
My impressions
In reply to: Re: video impressionsWell, this is all I can be sure of from seeing the video:
- Double weapons seems to be limited to pistol sised weapons, like the SMG, since the MC later switched from the 2 SMGs to 1 (new) rife.
- The new rifle has a slower rate of fire, but has 2x zoom (like pistol) and can get headshots.
- The warthogs now have a new weapon, appears to be either a cannon or laser, it has a slight reload time, but it is accurate and instanteneously damaging. Also, now your fellow marines will drive for you, and will do it WELL.
- Your fellow marines will do more than stand around, and seem to follow their own set nav points and objectives.
- The lighting is insanely good. Definatly using the Xbox to its fullest. Other effects incluse smoke from weapons, especially the dual SMGs.
- Environments seem to be a lot more destructable, with some nice explodable cars, containers, etc.
- Enemys are uglier. Yeah.
- Cut scenes and gaming transitions are a lot smoother, no visable loading, but they could've just edited that out of the tape.
Eidon
Re: video impressions
In reply to: Re: video impressionsblackmaff wrote on Saturday, 05/24/2003 - 9:35 am:
: it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on had a
: rocket launcher not a chain gun
: (E3 video)
:
: Can anyone confirm this?
yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on the jeep. check out bungie.com
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: video impressions
In reply to: Re: video impressionsEidon wrote on Thursday, 05/29/2003 - 4:07 pm:
: blackmaff wrote on Saturday, 05/24/2003 - 9:35 am:
:
: : it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on had
: a
: : rocket launcher not a chain gun
: : (E3 video)
: :
: : Can anyone confirm this?
: yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on the
: jeep. check out bungie.com
Yeah the warthog the MC was on had a beefier slower gun but if you look in the video at another warthog driving around a marine is shooting a chain gun from it so the warthogs have different weapons.
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: video impressions (Warthog Weapon)
In reply to: Re: video impressions: : : it looked to me as if the warthog the chief was on
: had
: : a
: : : rocket launcher not a chain gun
: : : (E3 video)
: : :
: : : Can anyone confirm this?
: : yes, I saw a picture that showed a rocket launcher on
: the
: : jeep. check out bungie.com
:
: Yeah the warthog the MC was on had a beefier slower gun
: but if you look in the video at another warthog driving
: around a marine is shooting a chain gun from it so the
: warthogs have different weapons.
Looking at the video for the umpteenth time you can see that the weapon MC uses is definitely Human (Orange-yellow trace lines) but that it is not a rocket launcher. It could be a gauss cannon but that would probably be energy based and not make sense as the gun uses human ammo. The weapon is double barreled as you can see from the alternate flashback report positions but beyond that you really can't tell what the ammo is as it moves too fast to be a rocket.
Eidon
Re: Daddy Likes
In reply to: Daddy LikesEarendil wrote on Friday, 05/16/2003 - 6:09 pm:
: dual sub-machine guns, this is going to rock, I can't wait
: to see what else can go dual...can you say dual pistols?
: I wonder what kind of disadvantage Bungie will place on
: the MC for holding two guns at once.
the disadvantage, is that you cannot throw greanades! you press the button that changes the greanade type, and put in another weapon instead.
blackmaff
Re: Daddy Likes
In reply to: Re: Daddy Likesdoes anyone know if you will be able to drive
a) the wraiths
b) the big plane things in the E3 trailer
that would be so cool as it was a little disappointing that i couldnt drive a wraith
also how big is the battle rifle scope?
it looks smaller than sniper but more than pistol
DF
Anonymous (not verified)
Hi res heaven . Truly a great revolution in gaming.
In reply to: Halo 2 Video Impressions?If I was Sony I would say that the first day of the PS2's life to now was a complete waste....because there is no denying it this single demo is about hundred times better than the BEST games that ever existed on the PS2. It is that good and delicious. If I was at Microsoft I would dream at night atmaking love to Laetitia casta bacause the king of four-eye geekdom has finally given the xbox a bright future ahead of the PS2. I thought the Xbox could not outdo what appeared at launch but now I take that back. Vastly superior First party titles, better online service and third party people sony signed deals with abandoning them will see the fall of the PS2 in short order. lalalalal Hey hey hey goodbye.
Lets see the Xbox is going to see Doom III and Half life II. Has two monster developers Rareware and Bungie and a relatively potential great developer, Digital Anvil that pass info back and forth between themselves to make their games look incredible. Sony has no good First party developers to rely on, I can only think of former artist Known as SingleTrac, AKA Incognito Sudios and they to will eventually be swallowed up by the Bill Gates glass nerd empire (Twisted metal Xbox soon). And Rockstar and Square will soon sign off on the PS2 leaving Sony exposed as a old fragile naked man.
I am making a guesstimate..... I say Bungie will sell about Fifteen million to twenty million copies of Halo II and it will sit right next to Mario III(NES)or Mario world (SNES) as the biggest known and selling game of all time or may actually be the biggest game of all time period!!!!!!. Bungie, the studio I know for Myth and Oni has hit the big time. Yeah!!!!!!
Anonymous (not verified)
Michel je bent raar
Michel ik moet even kwijt:
Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!!
(for the people who don't understand the above text: you can be glad you don't ;) )
Lamaman
Re: Michel je bent raar
In reply to: Michel je bent raarStefan, je bent raarerder dan ik, dit had je ook gewoon op MSN kunnen zeggen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FoShIzZyMaNizZy
Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!
In reply to: Re: Michel je bent raaryo Soy Un Aqua Sel Porgay Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!! Yo Necissito Freeo Refresco!!! Rapido Seniorita
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Lamaman
Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!
In reply to: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos???
right... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN!!
Anonymous (not verified)
Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!
In reply to: Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!Lamaman wrote on Friday, 06/13/2003 - 8:31 am:
: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos???
:
: right... WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN!!
I think I might be able to translate this...
Yo Necissito= i don't know
Un Laxante = something with shit (laxeren?)
Dispace me= I don't know
Me comiere Me Amigos=like my friends
en michel, je bent raardererer dan ik.
blackmaff
Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!
In reply to: Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!WTF
Anonymous (not verified)
Damn Failures
In reply to: Re: Yo Necissito Un Laxante Dispace Me Comiere Me Amigos!!!Wow....I leave for a month and this forum turns to freaking anarchy....
Oh well...
This is what that means :
Yo Necesito = I need...
Un Laxante = A Laxative...
Dispace = Dunno but thats not spanish... mebbe means to take a crap
Me Comiere = I will eat...
Me Amigos = My friends....
Problem with this sentence is...the idiot who wrote it cant write in spanish....
Oh well thats just me-
Signing off - ManWithaCrystalMethod
Blackdragon
Re: Damn Failures
In reply to: Damn Failuresthanks! now can you tell me what " Michel ik moet even kwijt:
Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!! " means? PS: you ppl need to speak english :D
Lamaman
Re: Damn Failures
In reply to: Re: Damn FailuresBlackdragon wrote on Tuesday, 07/8/2003 - 4:24 am:
: thanks! now can you tell me what " Michel ik moet even
: kwijt:
: Je posts zijn wel GIGANTISCH lang!!!! " means? PS: you ppl
: need to speak english :D
It means: " Michel (that's me) I have to say this: You're posts are INCREDIBLY long!!!! "
and no, it's not French, not Italian, not Spanish, it's just Dutch, a great but weird language.
Anonymous (not verified)
Hey guys, miss me? LOL
I haven't said much in a while, but that ends now that the E3 Demo has been revealed to the public.
First to start, THAT DEMO IS SOO UNBELEIVABLY AWESOME!!!!! THe graphics are so awsome compared to Halo 1. The detail is so cool. The game play looks great too. The Covenant have an entire new arsenal of vehicles and weapons while the humans do too. It would be so cool if the MC could pilot a phantom, but we'll have to wait and see.
I'd like to acknowledge that I made mistakes regarding predictions and wishes. The Brutes are just new units that the Covenant have, not possible human allies or another race that the Covenant are fighting (however a Brute rebellion seems possible ;-)). There are still no commands for the Marines, but hey that's no big deal. The Marines seem much smarter (they can drive the Warthogs now! YAY)
I still have a few questions though (and these are going to be annoying, but I'm going to post them anyway):
1) Where the heck are all the people in that city??? I mean come on! The Earth musthave tens of billions of people on it, so how has one city managed to be evacuated while the Earth is being bombarded like mad???
2) Why were the Marines on the dropship wearing those helmets that covered their whole head while the others where nothing but those same old, stupid helmets?
3) What the hell was with that highway, man? Yes, for some reason that big blast decided that it would be perfect to close the door at that moment when nothing was happening. (?????)
4) Why are there still no women Marines? (not to start a thing, but seriously.)
5) When those Elites drop from the sky (or orbit) are they in cryostasis or just in the pod? If you think about, reentry into a planet's atmopshere, iits pretty rough and if you're in a tin can, it won't be much better.
That's all for now. Halo 2 is going to be the best game EVER introduced to human kind EVER! Let's hope it will be resleased sooner than expected.
Anonymous (not verified)
Welcome back
In reply to: Hey guys, miss me? LOLWelcome back :)
I can answer some of those questions for you :
1) The people in the city are probably all dead, but remember that that city was huge, and in that mission you only see a small part of it.
2) The marines with the new helmets are ODST's (Orbital Drop Shock Troops - from the Halo book). They are tougher than the regular marines, and they wear less-powerful versions of the Chief's armor.
3) I thought I saw the Chief hit a button somewhere inside the tunnel to close the gate. However, it was right after the smoke so I cant be sure.
4) No Idea...
5) Those Elites probably have padding inside their pods. I doubt they are in stasis, because such a harsh revival would be very disorienting.
Blackdragon
Re: Welcome back
In reply to: Welcome backWhere can i get the demo?!!!!!!
e-mail me at rebelion@rock.com
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