Relations between Halo and the Bible.

This is just an idea that I came up with when I was re-reading the Halo3 articles and looking at the E3 pictures. Since the covenant are religious and all i thought that i should relate the bible to the Halo3 announcement trailer and the other Halo games.

Halo = Bible

1)the Ark-Ark of the Covenant
2)the hole where the artifact is-deep abyss where Satan was imprisoned for 1,000 years. (this leads me to believe that the artifact is not the Ark nor is the Ark inside the artifact. This could also mean that there may be something worse buried in the hole containing the artifact, perhaps a super-flood form?)
3)The number 7(Man this number is everywhere! When I go to Church, hang out with my friends, and even at school!)-According to the Bible the number 7 means complete. If you look in the last book of the Bible in Revelations you will notice that there are several things that have the number seven

ie(Bible):seven angles with seven trumpets, the beast with seven horns, the seven plagues, etc. etc. etc.

Also in the Halo books and games there are some things that deal with the number seven also

ie(Halo):There are seven Halos, A.I.s go 'rampant' in seven years.....

As you can see Bungie may have based most of Halo on the Bible and now that I think about it in Revelations you have John talking about what he sees at the end of the world. In the E3 announcement trailer we see all of Cortana's expressions and thoughts about what is happening to the Master Chief and to what is happening on Earth. This fits in perfectly into what I said before about Bungie incorperating the Bible into Halo. Cortana could be John witnessing the end of the world. And the Master Chief could be an angel or possibly (though a little crazy) God!

Well thats all I have to say on this topic unless of course somebody has some ideas and would like to share them with me and the rest of the Rampancy Community. So feel free to post!

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oh yeah, theere is just one thing i forgot to put in. in revelation the speaker is john the baptist (i think) so it would only seem right that it is really the master chief saying this since his name is also John.
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Bible comparisons are inevitable and have been going on for quite some time.

One thing I am really stumped about, though, is this:

Why are so many more comparisons to the Ark in Halo and the Ark of the Covenant made than to Noah's Ark? Is it because Spielberg didn't make a movie about the latter?

God told Noah to build an Ark to save a sample of humanity from the flood he sent to destroy evil.

Insert the comparison terms: Forerunners, Covenant, Humanity, and the Flood in where you like; although the comparison between the Ark/Halo system as a weapon and the Ark of the Covenant as portrayed in Spielberg's film are pretty close, I think the Flood comparison is far more apt.


Rampant for over se7en years.

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God told Noah to build an Ark to save a sample of humanity from the flood he sent to destroy evil.

Insert the comparison terms: Forerunners, Covenant, Humanity, and the Flood in where you like; although the comparison between the Ark/Halo system as a weapon and the Ark of the Covenant as portrayed in Spielberg's film are pretty close, I think the Flood comparison is far more apt.

this is what confuses me a little bit. "if the Forerunners told the Covenant to build an Ark to save a sample of Humanity from the Flood he sent to destroy all evil." in my opinion the Ark in the trailer is supposed to be a place where Truth could put the Forerunner ship and be safe from the activation of Installation 05 and not the Flood. that is why he told Tartarus to activate the ring. also the forerunner ship ship would be able to escape the blast radius of Halo because of the crystal that Doctor Halsey and the Spartans found on Reach. remember when Truth tells Tartarus that the amount of the crystal that they found would be enough. the crystal can make ships both human and covenant travel faster in slipspace. well thats all i have today so if you could please reply to my ideas.

[quote=narcogen]

God told Noah to build an Ark to save a sample of humanity from the flood he sent to destroy evil.

Insert the comparison terms: Forerunners, Covenant, Humanity, and the Flood in where you like; although the comparison between the Ark/Halo system as a weapon and the Ark of the Covenant as portrayed in Spielberg's film are pretty close, I think the Flood comparison is far more apt.[/quote]

this is what confuses me a little bit. "if the Forerunners told the Covenant to build an Ark to save a sample of Humanity from the Flood he sent to destroy all evil." in my opinion the Ark in the trailer is supposed to be a place where Truth could put the Forerunner ship and be safe from the activation of Installation 05 and not the Flood. that is why he told Tartarus to activate the ring. also the forerunner ship ship would be able to escape the blast radius of Halo because of the crystal that Doctor Halsey and the Spartans found on Reach. remember when Truth tells Tartarus that the amount of the crystal that they found would be enough. the crystal can make ships both human and covenant travel faster in slipspace. well thats all i have today so if you could please reply to my ideas.

1. The parallel is obviously not complete and cannot be. In the Biblical Flood story, the danger is only from the Flood itself. In Halo, the Flood present the danger of absorption, while Halo, as the counter to the Flood, presents the danger of eradication. However, as the latter only exists as a countermeasure to the former, the Flood itself is still the ultimate source of the threat, so with a slight adjustment the parallel holds. That the Ark is a safe point from the Halo burst (unconfirmed, but possible) is only a small adjustment.

2. The crystal is one of those novel elements that I don't think we'll see in the game, as it's not really necessary.


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yeah but what are your thoughts on the crystal do you think that Truth had actually planned to use the crystals in the Forerunner ship to move faster in slipspace?
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[quote=Champ]yeah but what are your thoughts on the crystal do you think that Truth had actually planned to use the crystals in the Forerunner ship to move faster in slipspace? ________________________________________________________________ -The CHAMP is here![/quote] Not really. The crystal is an element mentioned in FS but never in Halo 2. As such, I think it's an extra detail that really doesn't affect the story. As Truth is working towards the "great journey" (regardless of what he thinks it is) whatever Forerunner technology might be used to make ships faster is largely irrelevant.

NOT ONELY THAT BUT LIKE THE GRAVEMIND WHISPER SLICE FROM HALO 1,SRRy casp was on
he says ""...I have walked amongst men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose. I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man.
I live to see death, destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished.
I live in a prison of my own demise.
I am lost in time..."
"...I have walked amongst men and angels for three thousand years. Time has no end... no beginning... no purpose. "
This could mean that the Gravemind had walked with men and forerunners for thousands of years. Possibly the Gravemind was created by, allied with or imprisoned by the Forerunners. Then the Gravemind either escaped, rebelled or was cast out of the Forerunners kingdom. A war followed.

"I wander the earth, seeking forgiveness for my horrible crimes against God and man."
This is a bit of a mystery to me. Why the Gravemind would be on Earth is beyond my understanding. Possibly the Gravemind could travel to the Ark. However why the Gravemind apparently can not travel to Earth today is a mystery. Possibly the ability to travel to the Ark has been lost. The sins against God and man can be explained by saying Forerunners and man. This interesting. It seems to differentiate between GOD and MAN. If we assume Forunners take the place of God here then Forerunners are seen as seperate to man. An interesting point in itself.

"I live to see death and destruction reign over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished."
This is clearly something the Gravemind would say. The Gravemind lives to reign destruction over the light. The light being the Forerunners domain. However it can not win as it can not destroy all the light.

"I live in a prison of my own demise. "
A bit more mysterious but none the less easy to explain. As you may remember I explained the Gravemind may be feeling guilty for forcing the Forerunners hand and effectively forcing the activation of Halo. So the Gravemind being alive for the sole purpose of destruction of the light and any sentient life for that matter is living in its own demise. As if it reaches a certian point a reclaimer will most likely activate Halo and the Flood will go back to near extinction again. Hence the Gravemind lives to destroy but as it does so it effectively brings about its own demise. The prison being the fact that the Gravemind can not help what is doing. It knows its actions will bring about wrath and pain for itself but it can not help acting as it is.

"I am lost in time..."
This may refer to the fat that the Gravemind lives for a long time. The Gravemind may have survivied the last Halo activation and as such may not be able to die. Hence it is lost in time as time stretches on for ever and ever.

you can onely hear this if you listen to the song at the end of halo 2 backwards and grave mind also quots some scriptures from genisis like "i am peace,i am slavation join with me and you shall sing victory everlasting" also gravemind refers to people who resist agenst him as "sinners".

there are 7 rings

no shit sherlock -_-

the master chiefs name is john 117, and he came to bring light to the world. the gospel of john, chapter 1, verses 1-7 talk about how john the baptist was sent to bring the word to the people so that they would see the light