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A forum for Bungie's never-released "Phoenix" project, often mis-named "Fantasy Siege" due to a remark made by Microsoft's Ed Fries. The team is now working on a new, as-yet-undivulged project.

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Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

According to Matt:

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=152609

Damn. Now we've got to wait even longer...

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Re: Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

Yeah, that's probably what it means.

I started to have suspicions when Matt said that Halo 2 would be Bungie's first XBL game.

That meant to me that either Phoenix would NOT be on XBL (which seemed unlikely) or that Phoenix would be out after Halo 2 (which would have meant it would have a longer dev cycle than even... well, than even Oni).

Of course, I hadn't considered the idea that they'd just flat-out cancel it.

So, now instead of developing a game about which we knew nearly nothing, other than the misnomer "fantasy siege", now they're working on a game about which we know precisely nothing.

Just add it to the pile of things that make running a fan site challenging Smiling

mnemesis wrote on Thursday, 10/17/2002 - 10:39 pm:

: According to Matt:
:
:
: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=152609
:
: Damn. Now we've got to wait even longer...
:
: _______
: mnemesis | : href="http://halo.bungie.org/story/news.html">Got Spec?
: | A Bunch of BS



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Re: Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

not so sure about phoenix, but i luv strategy games.

cHiki,]

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Re: Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

Arg... I think I know, and understand why they cancelled.

I too, share a love for strategy games, but they're becoming too advanced, and too focused on flashy graphics... and not enough on gameplay, and balance, and story...

The best strategy game ever made illustrates my point brilliantly:

Tiberian Sun. By far the coolest, best storyline, funnest, and most balanced. But the next game the creators made sucked, completely: Red Alert 2. All because they were too focused on graphics.

I think the project got cancelled because there was no way to compete with the new strategy games that are coming out, that will, no doubt, suck ~_~ and so we're stuck with nothing to satisfy our crave for commanding battalions of aliens in epic warfare to conquer the world.

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Re: Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

Heliocentric wrote on Monday, 01/13/2003 - 4:55 pm:

: Arg... I think I know, and understand why they
: cancelled.
:
: I too, share a love for strategy games, but they're
: becoming too advanced, and too focused on flashy graphics...
: and not enough on gameplay, and balance, and story...
:
: The best strategy game ever made illustrates my point
: brilliantly:
:
: Tiberian Sun. By far the coolest, best storyline, funnest,
: and most balanced. But the next game the creators made
: sucked, completely: Red Alert 2. All because they were too
: focused on graphics.
:
: I think the project got cancelled because there was no way
: to compete with the new strategy games that are coming out,
: that will, no doubt, suck ~_~ and so we're stuck with
: nothing to satisfy our crave for commanding battalions of
: aliens in epic warfare to conquer the world.

Well, don't read much into this. There was never any announcement (officially) of the genre of game Phoenix was supposed to be, although most of us assumed it was strategy.

Even so, there's no particular reason to believe the project the Phoenix team is working on now isn't also a strategy game.

We'll just have to wait and see...



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Re: Phoenix is Dead, Long Live Phoenix

narcogen wrote on Wednesday, 01/15/2003 - 11:20 am:

: Heliocentric wrote on Monday, 01/13/2003 - 4:55 pm:
:
: : Arg... I think I know, and understand why they
: : cancelled.
: :
: : I too, share a love for strategy games, but they're
: : becoming too advanced, and too focused on flashy
: graphics...
: : and not enough on gameplay, and balance, and story...
: :
: : The best strategy game ever made illustrates my point
: : brilliantly:
: :
: : Tiberian Sun. By far the coolest, best storyline,
: funnest,
: : and most balanced. But the next game the creators made
: : sucked, completely: Red Alert 2. All because they were
: too
: : focused on graphics.
: :
: : I think the project got cancelled because there was no
: way
: : to compete with the new strategy games that are coming
: out,
: : that will, no doubt, suck ~_~ and so we're stuck with
: : nothing to satisfy our crave for commanding battalions
: of
: : aliens in epic warfare to conquer the world.
:
: Well, don't read much into this. There was never any
: announcement (officially) of the genre of game Phoenix was
: supposed to be, although most of us assumed it was
: strategy.
:
: Even so, there's no particular reason to believe the
: project the Phoenix team is working on now isn't also a
: strategy game.
:
: We'll just have to wait and see...
:
:


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Welcome

So... who thinks Phoenix will come out before Halo 2?



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narcogen wrote on Monday, 08/12/2002 - 9:28 pm:

: So... who thinks Phoenix will come out before Halo 2?

Honestly? No clue at all Smiling I just hope it comes out soon... I'm really looking foward to seeing what they have cooked up with this one...

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yah...

Phish wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 2:22 am:

: Honestly? No clue at all Smiling I just hope it comes out
: soon... I'm really looking foward to seeing what they have
: cooked up with this one...

I know we don't know much about Phoenix, but could somebody sum up exactly what we do know so far?

That'd be neeto.

Ishamael =PN=

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Re: yah...

It's a fantasy siege game. I think it uses the Halo engine, but I'm not sure.

- Matt

Ishamael wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 7:20 am:

: Phish wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 2:22 am:
:
: : Honestly? No clue at all Smiling I just hope it comes out
: : soon... I'm really looking foward to seeing what they
: have
: : cooked up with this one...
:
: I know we don't know much about Phoenix, but could
: somebody sum up exactly what we do know so far?
:
: That'd be neeto.
:
: Ishamael =PN=

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Re: yah...

Actually, I think about all we can definitively say about Phoenix so far is that it's NOT called "fantasy siege".

Smiling

acrappa wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 6:00 pm:

: It's a fantasy siege game. I think it uses the Halo
: engine, but I'm not sure.
:
: - Matt
:
: Ishamael wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 7:20 am:
:
: : Phish wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 2:22 am:
: :
: : : Honestly? No clue at all Smiling I just hope it comes out
: : : soon... I'm really looking foward to seeing what
: they
: : have
: : : cooked up with this one...
: :
: : I know we don't know much about Phoenix, but could
: : somebody sum up exactly what we do know so far?
: :
: : That'd be neeto.
: :
: : Ishamael =PN=
:



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Re: yah...

why would they use the halo engine?

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Re: yah...

Spartin wrote on Sunday, 09/8/2002 - 9:16 pm:

: why would they use the halo engine?
:
: kiwi

coz its a wicked engne that gives good physics, graphics and stuff

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