InFeRNALHe4T's picture
I have xbox and live starter kit, but i dont have xbl!!! I was wondering if u could get xbl with dial up with slow as hell lagging. I only want to use dial up temporarialy because im really bored of playing campaign over and over again. I beat it on heroic. thats why. but anyway im gonna get satellite soon to play xbl but i was just wonderin if u could use dial up

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narcogen's picture

It is possible to use a computer with a dialup connection to share its Internet connection to an Xbox using ICS, a hub and two ethernet cables... but it really won't do you much good.


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InFeRNALHe4T's picture

I heard that you just need a Network Interface Card and some crossover cables to do it, i was just askin if there was an easier way. I probably wont even try to do it with dial up because you would lagg like hell.
Anonymous's picture

will you cant use xbox live because it runs one dsl or cable but some you could try is get xbox connect first you get creat a brige from the 56k to a ethernet slot in you computer plug the ethernet wirder to the xbox and pc download xbc At xboxconnect.com once you in it free xbc tag:YB B THE BRAZYEST
Anonymous's picture

how do you use xbox live?
Anonymous's picture

GO HERE http://forums.halo-center.com/viewtopic.php?t=233 AND YES ITS STILL AN ACTIVE LINK
Anonymous's picture

no...
Anonymous's picture

dude u cant use xbox live with satellite. it xbl dont support it. it only supports cable and dsl. and thats it
Anonymous's picture

this is the 2nd to the last sentence on the xbox.com xbox live section. "Dial-up (for example, 56K), ISDN, and satellite Internet services are not supported." use this link http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/connect/providers.htm to help u get to the information page about internet connections. (at the very bottom of the page.
Anonymous's picture

thanks anonymous i didnt try it yet but i will. im too busy working and stuff. but ill look at it later. thanks again.
Anonymous's picture

u can use satellite to do xbl, because it does support it and thats it dummy. it just wont be as fast as cable or dsl because when your using xbl, it sends data packages through the cord constantly. dsl is the fastest, cable is fast, and satellite is fast if you have a good connection but instead of sending small data packages it sends large ones and it goes slower( unless you have the higher connection). xbl does work with satellite, it just might lagg sometimes, but not alot
Anonymous's picture

well u can but a lot of lag. I have satellite and XBL. I have done some games without the lag
InFeRNALHe4T's picture

at least i know someone who has satellite and plays xbl. cuz now i know that if i get it all it will work. thanks. how much do u pay for it? i dont know what im gonna pay for mine yet
narcogen's picture

In reply to: who knows (for sure) wat services allow you to connect to live?

No satellite or dialup provider is going to be able to provide a really playable connection on XBL. The minimum latency for dialup is around 150 to 200 ms, and the same or higher for satellite, while DSL and cable modem players will be dealing with 20-60ms on average.


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Anonymous's picture

wouldn't work as u have to dial numbers 4 dial up and xbox isn't preinstalled with it
Anonymous's picture

Well, you can try using one of those 3Com office connect modems that which connect to the net using dialup and have a 4 port ethernet in the back that you can connect to your Xbox - Cro
Anonymous's picture

First of all dont listen to the 25% of the gaming population that has broadband they had dialup at one time. Untill phone company's and cable company's stop catering to the few and serve all not everyone will have broadband I personaly love handing a dsl user there ass on Halo2 via dial up and no one even knows Im not on broadband. Share dialup internet connection on pc use an external not usb serial modem Diamond Supra on pricewatch.com 20 bucks with shipping. I use the xbox wireless routers 99 bucks best buy and thats it plug in and go You can play in rooms with up to 12 people fine. And ofcourse everyone in the broadband community will say "oh man you are LAGGING me out" are full of "SHIT" XBL servers auto balance the load so unlike pc gaming its almost impossible to lag someone out on dialup on Xbox Live they just want to RAG you because they have broadband and you dont.Bottom line it works and works well.
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In reply to: Yes it works fine

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You can play in rooms with up to 12 people fine. And ofcourse everyone in the broadband community will say "oh man you are LAGGING me out" are full of "SHIT" XBL servers auto balance the load so unlike pc gaming its almost impossible to lag someone out on dialup on Xbox Live they just want to RAG you because they have broadband and you dont.Bottom line it works and works well.[/quote]

What you say is true; it is possible using this method to play on Xbox Live using a dialup connection. I did so myself about two years ago.

It is true that under certain conditions (extreme distance, large latency, network congestion) that a bad "broadband" connection between two or more Xboxes can be as bad or worse than a good dialup connection.

When you talk about users having broadband (DSL or Cable) or dialup, you're only talking about the so-called "last mile"-- the connection between the end-user and his or her ISP. There are a great many number of other factors involved. You may very well be able to play in a decent game using dialup with opponents on the same ISP as you, whereas two DSL users in different countries may not. That's just reality.

However, to say that Xbox Live "auto balances the load" or that other users cannot tell you are on a slower speed, higher latency connection is not entirely accurate. Xbox Live attempts to match Xboxes in games when the latency between all the different Xboxes is as low as possible. Once the match is made, Xbox Live is no longer involved. Those broadband players complain because if they usually end up playing other broadband users in the same country, their latency will be 100ms or less. In a LAN game, that would be 10ms or less.

Meanwhile, on dialup the best you are ever going to see is 150ms; and when games reach 200 or 250 ms any player can notice the difference.

Above that, and things seriously start to fall apart. Players and objects start to "warp" as they instantaneously disappear from one spot and reappear somewhere else. The game will start to lose track of the position of enemies, projectiles and objective items.

The player list in a Halo 2 game shows the quality of each Xbox to the host; players can easily see whose connection is worse and will blame lag they experience on you. They are largely correct.

Where they are wrong is in blaming that for failing to kill you. Lag nearly always affects the lagged player worse than everyone else. The only difference is, as a high ping player, you're used to the lag. Everyone else on broadband isn't.

For tips on weapon choice and using vehicles on high latency connections, see our High Ping Guides.


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