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Archived forum posts for discussion of the upcoming sequel to Bungie's groundbreaking console shooter, Halo.

Please please PLEASE create new topics on the top level-- this thread is going to get overloaded soon.

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Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: ANGEL OF DEATH

thanks, but what about the 4 wheelers?

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: ANGEL OF DEATH

WERE IS A GOOD PLACE TO LOOK AT HALO2 PICS OF WARTHOGS,TANKS,WEAPONS...STUFF LIKE THAT?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: The first Halo preview movies vs Halo. And now Halo 2....

DOSE ANY ONE KNOW THE WEAPONS ON HALO2??IF SO WHAT ARE THEY?

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: ANGEL OF DEATH

Right. Step by step. 1)Point your browser to halo.bungie.net
2) select press scans from the list of things on the left of the page.3) select EGM halo 2 preview from the list of stuff to see 4)This has pictures of all known halo 2 weapons and vehicles.

Also, there are going to be five terrain-specific warthogs, some with guns some not. The troop-carrier warthog can seat six marines, one passenger and a driver!

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: ANGEL OF DEATH

TRAVIS wrote on Friday, 12/13/2002 - 8:24 pm:

: DOSE ANY ONE KNOW THE WEAPONS ON HALO2??IF SO WHAT ARE
: THEY?

halo2 weopons are gonna be:
HUMAN-
battle rifle
machete
jackhammer rocket launcher(mentioned in the book)
flamethrower
small tank
possibly human flyer for the MC
Covies-
covie sniper
plasma sword
covie warthog
and thats ll i can remember

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: The first Halo preview movies vs Halo. And now Halo 2....

I heard some thing about a sword or large knife...Is it true????

narcogen's picture

In reply to: ANGEL OF DEATH

TRAVIS wrote on Wednesday, 12/18/2002 - 8:43 pm:

: I heard some thing about a sword or large knife...Is it
: true????

Speculation, as far as I know.

A very early screenshot of Halo 1 showed the MC using a sword of some kind; and the original press release mentioned "composite swords" by name as among the MC's weaponry.

However, no such weapon exists in the shipping Halo 1 game, and I've yet to see anything definite about its inclusion in Halo 2.



Narcogen


Rampant for over se7en years.



Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: ANGEL OF DEATH

but what about the hunters gun it has a useable knife right???

shibby's picture

in the new press scans at halo.bungie.org i read that halo 2 will draw closeure to the HALO saga. i think the way they use the word "HALO" means that everything having to do with halo ie flood forrunner other instalations reason behind it conncetions to covanent and so on, is gonna be brought to an end in this game. that dosnt mean that we are never gonna see MC again. i think with the halo crap outta the way(dont get me wrong i liked it all i just hated fighting the flood) bungie can develope more on the story and battle between humans and the covinant. maybe they could end this sgame with like the humans meeting another alien race and joining forces with them. (WINK! WINK!)
-shibby xbc-shibby(for any of those who want to lose)

demonelite's picture

In reply to: THE END FOR MC?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i think NOT!!

I think it could be the end of Halo (for now) Bungie may not want to ruin such a good idea with countless sequals (think Mario and Sonic).

I suppose they could pick up the story a few years later, but this is all speculation at the moment.

Bungie are proberbly trying to scare us with the idea that the MC is leaving us after Halo 2!!!

DemonElite

Ryan's picture

In reply to: Re: THE END FOR MC?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i think NOT!!

demonelite wrote on Friday, 11/8/2002 - 6:40 pm:

: I think it could be the end of Halo (for now) Bungie may
: not want to ruin such a good idea with countless sequals
: (think Mario and Sonic).
:
: I suppose they could pick up the story a few years later,
: but this is all speculation at the moment.
:
: Bungie are proberbly trying to scare us with the idea that
: the MC is leaving us after Halo 2!!!

I've heard (from a good source, but this is NOT definite) that Halo 2 will focus a lot more on groups of humans. I don't know exactly how, that's all that was said.

Personally I'd like to see Halo continue, although it would be nice for a game series to end on a high for a change rather than a load of sequels that are the same.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: THE END FOR MC?!?!?!?!?!?!?! i think NOT!!

why didnt halo 2 take place on reach and halo 3 take place on earth? That would be a well rounded trilogy if I ever heard of one. Plus reach would be a sweet setting for the game.

Reclaimer's picture

In reply to: Those bungie idiots

him wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 12:45 pm:

: why didnt halo 2 take place on reach and halo 3 take place
: on earth? That would be a well rounded trilogy if I ever
: heard of one. Plus reach would be a sweet setting for the
: game.
:

Reach was destroyed with millions lost, nearly 150 human ships destroyed, and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1. Also, Reach was turned into a hot glass ball with no water or atmosphere. Kind of hard to turn that into a game prequel much less a sequel.

c0ld vengeance's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

Reclaimer wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 2:13 pm:

:and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1.

Theres no proof of that, see "Spartan II the next generation" post.

c0ld

c0ld

demonelite's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

Yeah but it would make Halo 2 better if there is only one Spartan left, you.

But it would be good to attack with a squad of Spartans backing you up, we will have to see what happens.

DemonElite

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

c0ld vengeance wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 11:08 pm:

: Reclaimer wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 2:13 pm:
:
: :and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1.
:
: Theres no proof of that, see "Spartan II the next
: generation" post.
:
: c0ld

There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall of reach" near the end we know that the spartons were either lost in space or were on the planet in a city or something when it is glassed which means they were killed. There by there is only the master chief left. And on another note there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the covenent homeworld.

c0ld vengeance's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

sniperwolf wrote on Friday, 11/22/2002 - 4:01 pm:

: There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall of
: reach" near the end we know that the spartons were either
: lost in space or were on the planet in a city or something
: when it is glassed which means they were killed. There by
: there is only the master chief left.

Nowhere in the book does it say what happens to the next group Spartans! They could be on another planet, in another solar system or even in another galaxy! We know most of the MC's group where killed apart from a couple of exceptions (i.e. James who goes for a little trip into space).

Also the Base on reach was in a cavern deep underground and we don’t know whether it was destroyed when the planet was glassed, it may have been deep enough to withstand it.

: And on another note
: there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the
: covenent homeworld.

Possibly, but who knows where the Halo story will go? (apart from Bungie).

They could go to the Covenant home world in Halo 2 but I doubt it.

c0ld

c0ld

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

sniperwolf wrote on Friday, 11/22/2002 - 4:01 pm:

: There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall of
: reach" near the end we know that the spartons were either
: lost in space or were on the planet in a city or something
: when it is glassed which means they were killed. There by
: there is only the master chief left. And on another note
: there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the
: covenent homeworld.

From TFOR:
During the Reach breifing:
"All surviving spartans save three,who are otherwise engaaged in fields of combat too distant to be easily recalled"

I can´t find any mention that they ever reached Reach in time for the
battle so the should be alive...which means there could be appearing in Halo 2...

Ryan's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

Riller wrote on Friday, 01/10/2003 - 12:08 pm:

: I can´t find any mention that they ever reached Reach in
: time for the
: battle so the should be alive...which means there could be
: appearing in Halo 2...

Who knows? it could just happen. After all, Halo 2 is said to be more about team based combat than the origonal game.

sniperwolf wrote on Friday, 11/22/2002 - 10:01 pm:

: c0ld vengeance wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 11:08 pm:
:
: : Reclaimer wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 2:13 pm:
: :
: : :and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1.
: :
: : Theres no proof of that, see "Spartan II the next
: : generation" post.
: :
: : c0ld
:
: There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall of
: reach" near the end we know that the spartons were either
: lost in space or were on the planet in a city or something
: when it is glassed which means they were killed. There by
: there is only the master chief left. And on another note
: there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the
: covenent homeworld.

I heard that the war between the humans and the Covenant will be ended in Halo 2 but it could just be a rumour.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

Ryan wrote on Tuesday, 01/21/2003 - 7:40 pm:

: Riller wrote on Friday, 01/10/2003 - 12:08 pm:
:
: : I can´t find any mention that they ever reached Reach
: in
: : time for the
: : battle so the should be alive...which means there could
: be
: : appearing in Halo 2...
:
: Who knows? it could just happen. After all, Halo 2 is said
: to be more about team based combat than the origonal game.
:
: sniperwolf wrote on Friday, 11/22/2002 - 10:01 pm:
:
: : c0ld vengeance wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 11:08
: pm:
: :
: : : Reclaimer wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 2:13 pm:
: : :
: : : :and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1.
: : :
: : : Theres no proof of that, see "Spartan II the next
: : : generation" post.
: : :
: : : c0ld
: :
: : There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall of
: : reach" near the end we know that the spartons were
: either
: : lost in space or were on the planet in a city or
: something
: : when it is glassed which means they were killed. There
: by
: : there is only the master chief left. And on another
: note
: : there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the
: : covenent homeworld.
:
: I heard that the war between the humans and the Covenant
: will be ended in Halo 2 but it could just be a rumour.
:
: :I agree; if you read Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric Nyland you'll get it; the book is awesome and it explains everything very well. They started out with like 30 SPARTAN IIs; some were sent to fight on Reach; they were massacred by the covenant. some, including MC, were sent to a covenant ship to destroy a dropship captured by the covenant with the coordinates of Earth on it. they had to destroy it in accordance with the Cole protocol.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Those bungie idiots

the cheat wrote on Sunday, 01/26/2003 - 8:25 pm:

: Ryan wrote on Tuesday, 01/21/2003 - 7:40 pm:
:
: : Riller wrote on Friday, 01/10/2003 - 12:08 pm:
: :
: : : I can´t find any mention that they ever reached
: Reach
: : in
: : : time for the
: : : battle so the should be alive...which means there
: could
: : be
: : : appearing in Halo 2...
: :
: : Who knows? it could just happen. After all, Halo 2 is
: said
: : to be more about team based combat than the origonal
: game.
: :
: : sniperwolf wrote on Friday, 11/22/2002 - 10:01 pm:
: :
: : : c0ld vengeance wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 11:08
: : pm:
: : :
: : : : Reclaimer wrote on Saturday, 11/9/2002 - 2:13 pm:
: : : :
: : : : :and all but one Spartan killed before Halo 1.
: : : :
: : : : Theres no proof of that, see "Spartan II the next
: : : : generation" post.
: : : :
: : : : c0ld
: : :
: : : There is proof to this if you read "Halo :the fall
: of
: : : reach" near the end we know that the spartons were
: : either
: : : lost in space or were on the planet in a city or
: : something
: : : when it is glassed which means they were killed.
: There
: : by
: : : there is only the master chief left. And on another
: : note
: : : there will probably be a halo 3 where they go to the
: : : covenent homeworld.
: :
: : I heard that the war between the humans and the
: Covenant
: : will be ended in Halo 2 but it could just be a rumour.
: :
: : :I agree; if you read Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric
: Nyland you'll get it; the book is awesome and it explains
: everything very well. They started out with like 30 SPARTAN
: IIs; some were sent to fight on Reach; they were massacred
: by the covenant. some, including MC, were sent to a
: covenant ship to destroy a dropship captured by the covenant
: with the coordinates of Earth on it. they had to destroy it
: in accordance with the Cole protocol.

Well,appartly shown in the trailer,it seems they failed...

Anonymous's picture

HE8721's wishlist:


A flame thrower
The battle rifle(gun that MC carries in H2 trailer)
MORE TO COME!

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: HE8721's wishlist

How about a Sword... like the gold elites use.

Masterchief's picture

In reply to: Re: HE8721's wishlist

daystorm wrote on Sunday, 11/10/2002 - 3:37 pm:

: How about a Sword... like the gold elites use.
:

An unheard of level of interactivity :)

c0ld vengeance's picture

In reply to: Re: HE8721's wishlist

An ability to holster your weapon (great movie-making advantage).
System link in co-op mode + 4 player option.
Internet/LAN multiplayer team missions.

c0ld

c0ld

blackmaff's picture

In reply to: c0ld's wishlist

c0ld vengeance wrote on Sunday, 11/10/2002 - 8:51 pm:

: An ability to holster your weapon (great movie-making
: advantage).
: System link in co-op mode + 4 player option.
: Internet/LAN multiplayer team missions.
:
: c0ld

blackmaff's picture

In reply to: Re: c0ld's wishlist

i screwed that post up

my list

more vehicles
drive wraiths
fly human planes
giant online matches on xblive

System Failure's picture

In reply to: Re: black's wishlist

: M50 machine guns
: Human planes (controlable
: Bigger battlefields
: Doors in multiplayer
: Customizable multiplayer arenas

demonelite's picture

In reply to: System Failure's Wishlist

I have one word:

MINIGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(actually I can think of five more: controllable longsword fighter, a covie tank, a marine that can drive!!!, a warthog with a rocket launcher)

DemonElite

demonelite's picture

In reply to: demonelite's Wishlist

What I would like in Halo 2 is a separate co-op story mode.

Say you are playing with the MC as player 1 doing your mission e.g. attacking a covie outpost while player 2 is setting up an ambush with a platoon of marines to catch the retreating covies.

I know this will be difficult to do but with the downloadable content you can get from xbox live this may be possible.

p.s. Splinter Cell rocks I hope they have lighting effects like that in Halo 2

DemonElite

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: demonelite's Wishlist

demonelite wrote on Thursday, 12/5/2002 - 12:58 pm:

: What I would like in Halo 2 is a separate co-op story
: mode.
:
: Say you are playing with the MC as player 1 doing your
: mission e.g. attacking a covie outpost while player 2 is
: setting up an ambush with a platoon of marines to catch the
: retreating covies.
:
: I know this will be difficult to do but with the
: downloadable content you can get from xbox live this may be
: possible.
:
: p.s. Splinter Cell rocks I hope they have lighting effects
: like that in Halo 2

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: demonelite's Wishlist

i'd like some bots in multiplayer

uberscythe's picture

In reply to: Re: demonelite's Wishlist

What I want:
-zero-g fighting, like in fall of reach
-more players on co-op
-more covie weapons
-more human weapons
-maybe ship to ship fights
-bigger weapons. He can flip over a 30-ton tank, why not specially designed SPARTAN weapons? like huge jetpacks, or missle launchers that lock on and home, or MAC cannons.
-more levels

uber

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: uber's wishlist

Although there are plenty of things that could make halo 2 even cooler than halo lets not forget the words of somebody in officla xobox magazine uk - 'halo is a great game, I hope bungie don't add stuff for the sake of adding stuff and screw it up

narcogen's picture

In reply to: Screw ups

Bungie rarely does this. In fact, I can't think of a time when they did.

More often they leave out something that isn't quite perfect yet-- for instance, ambient life and fire in Myth (both appeared later in Myth 2) and the flamethrower in Halo 1, which didn't make the cut.

BOB slayer wrote on Tuesday, 12/17/2002 - 2:33 pm:

: Although there are plenty of things that could make halo 2
: even cooler than halo lets not forget the words of somebody
: in officla xobox magazine uk - 'halo is a great game, I hope
: bungie don't add stuff for the sake of adding stuff and
: screw it up



Narcogen


Rampant for over se7en years.



uberscythe's picture

In reply to: Re: Screw ups

D'you think adding silenced weapons would be too much? (And a bigger stealth element)

uber

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Screw ups

Its on the tin (or subject)

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: uber's wishlist

I think that it would be cool if in multyplayer instead of being MC vs. MC it could be Elite vs Hunter, somthing like that.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: HE8721's wishlist

Sward, Flamethrower, Minigun, Different Suites (So like a Covenant suite make enemys not shoot you), AI Drives Vechiles, Music suggests game (So like bad music=Flood killing you)

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Halomaniac's wishlist

Plasma sword, fuel rod gun, silenced weapons (at least pistol and sniper), a flame thrower, be able to fly a pelican, or a human plane, banshees in multiplayer, more covenant weapons (like one that can zoom), be able to give orders to marines(i.e., stay back, get cover, charge, sniper only, etc.), melee weapons in general(like a machete, a night stick, a stun weapon), a weapon with explosive rounds (or at least be able to pick up and switch between normal and explosive) that are great against shields (i.e. elite and jackal) and devastating to flood.

Ryan's picture

In reply to: Wishlist

I'd like to see a useable plasma sword (or some other melee weapons as well, maybe) that you can use. ALso it could be cool if you could use a jackal's shield. When using it the MC could hold it sort of forward offering a little protection, but when you see trouble, crouch down and the MC holds it over his front, pointing his weapon through the niche in the side like jackals do (so you could only use it with one-handed weapons like the pistol.)

The only thing that worries me about Halo 2 is that now the MC can lean around corners. To me this sounds like it's going to slow the gameplay down a bit.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Wishlist

Ryan wrote on Monday, 01/20/2003 - 9:47 am:

: I'd like to see a useable plasma sword (or some other
: melee weapons as well, maybe) that you can use. ALso it
: could be cool if you could use a jackal's shield. When using
: it the MC could hold it sort of forward offering a little
: protection, but when you see trouble, crouch down and the MC
: holds it over his front, pointing his weapon through the
: niche in the side like jackals do (so you could only use it
: with one-handed weapons like the pistol.)
:
: The only thing that worries me about Halo 2 is that now
: the MC can lean around corners. To me this sounds like it's
: going to slow the gameplay down a bit.

the things most people have asked for would great as unlockable extras. halo was great as you had weigh up the pro's and con's of each weapon to suit the situation. the elite sword would great - you got a real sense of pride in killing elite with meele attacks, the swords would only extend that. it would be great taking the battle to them on their own terms. if halo 2 is more stealthy it would be a great silent weapon. normal humans should waer the mjolnir armour, surely that would even the odds on the battlefield. a squad of marines in mjolnir could hold their own against elites.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Wishlist

proto¬elf wrote on Thursday, 01/30/2003 - 9:48 am:

: Ryan wrote on Monday, 01/20/2003 - 9:47 am:
:
: : I'd like to see a useable plasma sword (or some other
: : melee weapons as well, maybe) that you can use. ALso
: it
: : could be cool if you could use a jackal's shield. When
: using
: : it the MC could hold it sort of forward offering a
: little
: : protection, but when you see trouble, crouch down and
: the MC
: : holds it over his front, pointing his weapon through
: the
: : niche in the side like jackals do (so you could only use
: it
: : with one-handed weapons like the pistol.)
: :
: : The only thing that worries me about Halo 2 is that
: now
: : the MC can lean around corners. To me this sounds like
: it's
: : going to slow the gameplay down a bit.
:
: the things most people have asked for would great as
: unlockable extras. halo was great as you had weigh up the
: pro's and con's of each weapon to suit the situation. the
: elite sword would great - you got a real sense of pride in
: killing elite with meele attacks, the swords would only
: extend that. it would be great taking the battle to them on
: their own terms. if halo 2 is more stealthy it would be a
: great silent weapon. normal humans should waer the mjolnir
: armour, surely that would even the odds on the battlefield.
: a squad of marines in mjolnir could hold their own against
: elites.

Actually in the Novel HALO: The Fall Of Reach (Great book, it explains everything that happened before the time Halo takes place.), it says normal humans can't wear the armor. The book explains why.

Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Re: Wishlist

punch people, sneak up behind people and steal their gun (like on nightfire) silencer, unlockable extras, weapon upgrades, gadgets (like 007 style, Q) fliable Pelicon/Covenant Dropship, Covenant have some Human weapons (you have covenant ones!) a weapon store, (you can only carry two guns so if you get a cool gun pick up another, and another you have two drop one, in other words, a base!), Player Select (If you choose cortana you have ai levels and you have to guide the MC through the game!), coop has one guy going to defend player 2 and player 2 is attacking a covenant base structure!

Masterchief's picture

I'd really like to know why in Halo, NTSC and PAL gamers can't play together. It wouldn't be such a big deal if online play for Halo didn't exist, but it's still annoying. The thing I really want for Halo 2, is for everyone to be able to play everyone.

Why is there region encoding in the first place for Halo anyway?

narcogen's picture

In reply to: Why oh why?!

Region encoding exists in games for more or less the same reasons it exists on DVDs. To isolate markets with different pricing from each other to discourage smuggling. (The common perception, that it has something to do with language options, isn't usually true at all-- even the DVDs I buy in the North American market have one, two, or more European languages on them, and the same goes for European DVDs, which almost ALWAYS have English on them.

However, region coding has nothing to do with the inability to play together on system link. The problem here is because Halo uses the refresh rate of the screen as a "clock" for timing certain actions in the game, including the movement of objects. Trying to play the two versions together would create an out of sync game rather quickly.

At least that's how it was explained-- I think somebody from Bungie posted about it at HBO some months ago.

Masterchief wrote on Monday, 11/11/2002 - 11:05 pm:

: I'd really like to know why in Halo, NTSC and PAL gamers
: can't play together. It wouldn't be such a big deal if
: online play for Halo didn't exist, but it's still annoying.
: The thing I really want for Halo 2, is for everyone to be
: able to play everyone.
:
: Why is there region encoding in the first place for Halo
: anyway?



Narcogen


Rampant for over se7en years.



blackmaff's picture

In reply to: Why

if everyone played europe v US v Austalia(wahey) online then the ping would be really sssllooowww so its better to play only people in your own region

although sniping at the yanks sounds really fun hehehe

shibby's picture

In reply to: Re: Why 2

blackmaff wrote on Tuesday, 11/12/2002 - 9:37 am:

: if everyone played europe v US v Austalia(wahey) online
: then the ping would be really sssllooowww so its better to
: play only people in your own region
:
: although sniping at the yanks sounds really fun hehehe

hey we saved europe's butt from hitler so give us some friggin' credit ;)

System Failure's picture

In reply to: Re: Why 2

shibby wrote on Friday, 11/15/2002 - 12:43 am:

: blackmaff wrote on Tuesday, 11/12/2002 - 9:37 am:
:
: : if everyone played europe v US v Austalia(wahey)
: online
: : then the ping would be really sssllooowww so its better
: to
: : play only people in your own region
: :
: : although sniping at the yanks sounds really fun hehehe
:
: hey we saved europe's butt from hitler so give us some
: friggin' credit ;)
:
:Yeah you can't forget D- Day. Or all the constant fighting.

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