I don't know if anyone has already brought this up or not but I just beat Halo 2 again only this time I payed a bit more attention since it's actually been a coule of years since I last played the campaingn all the way through but I was wondering at the end of Halo 2 they talk about the remaining instillations being ready for remote detination from the ark that Master chief was on and so far I've seen nobody mention anything about the ark in Halo 3. I've heard about foruner (sorry if I spelt that wrong) technology being discovered under the African sands and the story taking place with the covenate civil war but nothing about the ark or any of the other Halos. I'm just curious how a remote to basically wipe out life as we know it being only so far away from earth is going to play into the story?

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Anonymous's picture

read the books. the ship the prophets are on is not the ark. ghosts of onyx makes that quite clear
spartan 691's picture

In reply to: eehnt. wrong

See I have'nt fineshed ghosts of Onyx yet I've still got about 60 pages to go.

narcogen's picture

The Ark is the large artifact seen in the H3 trailer, most likely.

My own personal speculation is that in addition to performing the function of a backup control room for remote activation of the other Halo installations, but that it also performs the "shield world" functions mentioned in Ghosts of Onyx.


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Apello's picture

In reply to: The Ark

That would make total sense, true, but would Bungie be willing to spend the time to rattle out all the necessary exposition needed to flesh out those functions in the game? I would find it delightful if all the story written in the halo books were to finally have mention in the video games; to set up that huge thing we saw in the trailer as the gateway to the final battleground, potentially, in the shield world, or in the button-mashing plaza of the final control room, or to even just barely touch on that place at all in the game, and move on to something else.

Would the people who have the final say on the games force the gamers, to fully understand the plot, to buy more extraneous items (the books)? Naww.

It would be ironic that, instead of having the ark to be this massively huge shining artifact of the forgotten uber-advanced aliens, have it turn out to be something that the Chief could fit into his back pocket as he's running away from a huge explosion. Here's wondering if the Ark isn't some sort of miniature teleportation device, hopping along repeater stations to somewhere outside the galactic ring, away from the the blast of the halo devices...not saying they'll go off, but star-crossed Chiefeo and Cortiet may not want to perish on top of the funeral pyre of the rest of the human race.

I'm not meaning to demean your ides, far from it. I'm just adding on to it whatever many, many hours of no sleep and about 1.2 kg of caffeine would do anybody.

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In reply to: Control Center Conflagration

[quote=Apello]That would make total sense, true, but would Bungie be willing to spend the time to rattle out all the necessary exposition needed to flesh out those functions in the game? I would find it delightful if all the story written in the halo books were to finally have mention in the video games; to set up that huge thing we saw in the trailer as the gateway to the final battleground, potentially, in the shield world, or in the button-mashing plaza of the final control room, or to even just barely touch on that place at all in the game, and move on to something else.[/quote]

I think they won't rattle it all out. But I don't think they'll find it necessary. Some they may leave to imagination and interpretation. Some they may SHOW you and not explain at all.

For instance, the Chief might find a glowing door within the Ark, pass through it, and find himself somewhere else. Cortana, if she is in contact with him, might speculate on where and why. She's already had access to the information systems of a Halo, and may know much that is unrevealed to the player already.

[quote=Apello]Would the people who have the final say on the games force the gamers, to fully understand the plot, to buy more extraneous items (the books)? Naww.[/quote]

I agree they absolutely will not do that. On the other hand, Bungie rarely feels the need to spell everything out anyway. I think it's likely the conclusion of the story may read well on two levels: as a simple action story where you shoot things until there's nothing left to shoot, and the greater political/philosophical story, that may only be hinted at.

[quote=Apello]It would be ironic that, instead of having the ark to be this massively huge shining artifact of the forgotten uber-advanced aliens, have it turn out to be something that the Chief could fit into his back pocket as he's running away from a huge explosion. Here's wondering if the Ark isn't some sort of miniature teleportation device, hopping along repeater stations to somewhere outside the galactic ring, away from the the blast of the halo devices...not saying they'll go off, but star-crossed Chiefeo and Cortiet may not want to perish on top of the funeral pyre of the rest of the human race.

I'm not meaning to demean your ides, far from it. I'm just adding on to it whatever many, many hours of no sleep and about 1.2 kg of caffeine would do anybody.
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spartan 691's picture

In reply to: Still to be denied an explanation...

"For instance, the Chief might find a glowing door within the Ark, pass through it, and find himself somewhere else. Cortana, if she is in contact with him, might speculate on where and why. She's already had access to the information systems of a Halo, and may know much that is unrevealed to the player already." Narcogen

There may be a small problem with that theroy. If Cortana really has gotten all that info like you suggest wouldn't she about ready to short out due to all the information she has stored and now she has no where to dump it so that might be why she was hard to understand in the first trailer is beacause she is dying ?

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In reply to: Cortana should be about ready to short out

[quote=spartan 691]"For instance, the Chief might find a glowing door within the Ark, pass through it, and find himself somewhere else. Cortana, if she is in contact with him, might speculate on where and why. She's already had access to the information systems of a Halo, and may know much that is unrevealed to the player already." Narcogen

There may be a small problem with that theroy. If Cortana really has gotten all that info like you suggest wouldn't she about ready to short out due to all the information she has stored and now she has no where to dump it so that might be why she was hard to understand in the first trailer is beacause she is dying ?

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I think the strain on Cortana due to the information she's carrying is only ever mentioned in First Strike. (Of course, so is the 7-year lifespan; it's never mentioned in-game.) As such, I think Cortana's current distress is related solely to the current situation, and Gravemind, and not to the other factors.


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Anonymous's picture

if in the halo3 trailerthe thing a majig is activated shouldend the covanant die to.
narcogen's picture

In reply to: covanant mystery

Perhaps; we just don't know. If everything we've been told so far is true, then yes. I think Truth knows something about the way the "shield world" concept from Ghosts of Onyx works, and is planning on entering the slipspace bubble. That would protect him from the blast, but I think he believes it is a gateway to somewhere else, rather than just the temporary shelter I think it is.


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Anonymous's picture

In reply to: Possibly
So if the ark is the thing we see in the halo 3 trailer than is it possible that the earth has it's own spiecies of flood such as the jugernaut flood?
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In reply to: the flood

If the Ark is what we see, and it's on Earth, and it's a remote control room for all the Halo installations, as well as a "shield world" protecting some individuals/species from the installations when fired...

...then keeping Flood there would be monumentally stupid.

Not saying there aren't. Just saying it'd be a prescription for disaster.


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In reply to: Foolish
just a thought
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In reply to: Foolish
[quote=narcogen]If the Ark is what we see, and it's on Earth, and it's a remote control room for all the Halo installations, as well as a "shield world" protecting some individuals/species from the installations when fired... ...then keeping Flood there would be monumentally stupid. Not saying there aren't. Just saying it'd be a prescription for disaster. Rampant for over se7en years.[/quote] maybe thats what grave mind is trying to do is get in there or something like that I really don't have a clue and if it is the shield world than why didn't the forerunner try and go there and then operate halo. Or is it possible that Grave Mind is Forerunner beacause he claims to have been around for along time so is it possible for Grave mind to actually be what remains of the forerunner it would explain how he survived the first activation of Halo?