Wha- Why? Why would an Elite, after helping a couple humans (who he attacked before) stop Halo, have any reason to want to fight Master Chief? I mean- it makes no sense.

If there HAD to be any kind of boss battle, it would be with either truth or gravemind (i dont know if he's good or evil, but in halo 2 it was obvious that there wasnt really much of a choice in him helping the humans and elites).

Maybe you could fight Truth like you fought Regret, but with more bodyguards. It does have both the element of a boss battle and a halo battle. If Truth is as easy to beat down as Regret was, but with even more support, you could have the element of a "Halo boss battle."

I don't know. How about this: Master Chief kills the Arbiter, activates all the Halos, and everybody dies a horrible death. Perfect Ending.

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Mr. Qwertyuiop's picture

The Arbiter may be siding with the humans, but, remember, Master Chief cost him his job, so there could be some aggression between the two characters if their paths do cross again in Halo 3 (which I presume they will).

narcogen's picture

In reply to: Arbiter's got a reason to dislike the Chief.

Heck, not just his job-- his entire belief system. Although it seems the Arbiter has come to grips with that, and the real culprit is 343 Guilty Spark anyway-- at least in so far as he is the only extant representative of the Forerunners.

Arby's entire culture has been building, for thousands of years, towards an event that GS says isn't what they think it is, and that the Chief is trying to prevent.

Despite whatever temporary alliances may be deemed pragmatic, there's still the possibility for some animosity there, I think.


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Johny117's picture

See, we can't just assume that ALL of the Sanheili have a truce with Humans. How do we know? Did they say that? Maybe the Arbiter just wanted to side with Johnson and Miranda.

See this is what I absolutely hate. You see, the Master Chief and the entire Human race is at war with the Covenant. The Master Chief was trained since the age of six to be a killing machine.

To see Elites joining forces with Humans seems very ridiculous. Can anyone else here see the Master Chief with his fellow Spartans shaking hands in terms of peace? I certainly cannot. And deep down inside, I don't want to. There is only winning and losing in war. Well, it seems, in this war anyway.

I loved the "retro" Halo much better. The novels, the game, you know, the SPARTANs are still mysterious killing giants, the everything. The general events before the so-called "truce" between the alien Elites and the human beings.

I just hope Halo 3 won't end to be a lame chessy happily-ever-after ending but instead be a logical and reasonalble conclusion. One that would possibly halt all rampant speculation.

But if the humans surrender to the Covenant (which seems impossible at this rate) the war will not end until every Human brick is unturned.

You see, the Humans cannot win in this war. They simply can't. Covenant shield technology seems to be the only advantage in space combat. And also on ground engagements.

Unless of course, Dr. Halsey and the remining SPARTAN IIs and SPARTAN IIIs successfully find Forerunner technology and escape the slipspace bubble within Onyx. But because of this, that might mean that there will be no fellow SPARTANS in Halo 3.

I --and I'll bet many of you are-- am only concerned about what will happen and how it will be resolved in Halo 3.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

narcogen's picture

In reply to: Regarding the Humans and the Covenant.

[quote=Johny117]
See, we can't just assume that ALL of the Sanheili have a truce with Humans. How do we know? Did they say that? Maybe the Arbiter just wanted to side with Johnson and Miranda.[/quote]

We have Frankie's quote in the Brute VIDOC that "the Elites have left the Covenant".

That's not proof either, but it would seem to indicate that there will be no Elites left on the side of the Prophets and Brutes.

If some, but not all Elites ally with humans, that would further split their side. So you'd have:

  • Humans
  • Brutes, Prophets and supporters
  • Human-allied Elites and supporters
  • Non-Human-allied Elites and Supporters
  • The Flood
  • Monitor(s) and Sentinels

That's a lot of sides in a war, even for Bungie.

[quote=Johny117]See this is what I absolutely hate. You see, the Master Chief and the entire Human race is at war with the Covenant. The Master Chief was trained since the age of six to be a killing machine.

To see Elites joining forces with Humans seems very ridiculous. Can anyone else here see the Master Chief with his fellow Spartans shaking hands in terms of peace? I certainly cannot. And deep down inside, I don't want to. There is only winning and losing in war. Well, it seems, in this war anyway.[/quote]

I think the point of Halo's story is that the "war" is not what it looked like. The Human-Covenant war is not, and never was, the story. The story is about Halo, who made it, and why-- which is about the Flood and how to counter it. The two sides in the human-covenant war will have to put their differences aside to decide the question of what to do about the Flood.

That remnants of the Covenant are persisting in seeking their suicidal great journey is just part of that problem, as their actions ARE a means of dealing with the Flood-- the method used by the Forerunners 100,000 years ago, the method of last resort.

The question is, does an alliance of humanity and the Elites have an alternative method of dealing with the Flood?

None that we are aware of so far.

[quote=Johny117] I loved the "retro" Halo much better. The novels, the game, you know, the SPARTANs are still mysterious killing giants, the everything. The general events before the so-called "truce" between the alien Elites and the human beings.

I just hope Halo 3 won't end to be a lame chessy happily-ever-after ending but instead be a logical and reasonalble conclusion. One that would possibly halt all rampant speculation.[/quote]

I doubt that very much. Bungie does not have a history of doing that sort of endings.

[quote=Johny117] But if the humans surrender to the Covenant (which seems impossible at this rate) the war will not end until every Human brick is unturned.

You see, the Humans cannot win in this war. They simply can't. Covenant shield technology seems to be the only advantage in space combat. And also on ground engagements.[/quote]

The humans could not win a war alone against a unified covenant. The Covenant is no longer unified, and I would expect Gravemind and the Flood to be preparing efforts to stop Truth from beginning the great journey. So the remnants of the Covenant working to activate the Ark will have them to contend with as well.

[quote=Johny117] Unless of course, Dr. Halsey and the remining SPARTAN IIs and SPARTAN IIIs successfully find Forerunner technology and escape the slipspace bubble within Onyx. But because of this, that might mean that there will be no fellow SPARTANS in Halo 3.[/quote]

Bungie cannot make reading the novels a prerequisite of understanding the plot of the game. I seriously doubt Dr. Halsey and the Spartan IIIs will have any role whatsoever in Halo 3. For those who did not read the novels, it would require too much explanation. It would look like a deus ex machina ending, where some unknown group never mentioned before swoops in and saves the day at the last moment.

[quote=Johny117] I --and I'll bet many of you are-- am only concerned about what will happen and how it will be resolved in Halo 3.[/quote]

I'm not concerned. I'm just interested :)


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