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Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

Call me old fashioned, but! I thought the days of the old pre rendered adds trying to be the game graphics was coming to an end...

or not as it would appear..

What I am talking about and my slightly sinicle veiw.

I thought Halo, the holy grail of games was, the best thing scine Rick Dangerouse on the Amiga. I have great expectations of halo 2 and I think, well I no, it will be a sucsess but! do we have to see prerendered graphics instead of the real game engine?

When I downloaded the Movie the buggy beta of media player 9 and read the review of the movie from bungie, I was in great or
ore. It was not until I watched the movie for the second time did I notice that its a complete fabrication, desined to get us to download WM9 and to be hyped up by bungie. Now I am not one of those Xfiles Conspiricy theorests, I am a games designer and a 3D artist and I am telling you that the graphics engine may well be capible of produceing somthing near what we saw in that movie, but what we had was a prerender with the AA turned off as well as the motion blur and other effects. Now it would have fooled me into thinking it was the real game graphics if it was not for the shadows and the Spectacular and lighting effects were to accurate for a game engine to run at any reliable or playable rate. Now ask your self this what would you prefer, 1 to have the pre render and be let down or to have the video of the proper engine working??

Please Let me Know..

The Duke

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

it has been mentioned before but thoes are in the game engine so shearch before you speak.

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

theduke wrote on Sunday, 09/8/2002 - 1:57 pm:

:
: Call me old fashioned, but! I thought the days of the old
: pre rendered adds trying to be the game graphics was coming
: to an end...
:
: or not as it would appear..
:
: What I am talking about and my slightly sinicle veiw.
:
: I thought Halo, the holy grail of games was, the best
: thing scine Rick Dangerouse on the Amiga. I have great
: expectations of halo 2 and I think, well I no, it will be a
: sucsess but! do we have to see prerendered graphics instead
: of the real game engine?

It's the in game engine. Bungie has never used a prerendered image for promotion. I have complete confidence that the trailer was real and realtime created. They really have no reason to lie to us.

: When I downloaded the Movie the buggy beta of media player
: 9 and read the review of the movie from bungie, I was in
: great or
: ore. It was not until I watched the movie for the second
: time did I notice that its a complete fabrication, desined
: to get us to download WM9 and to be hyped up by bungie. Now
: I am not one of those Xfiles Conspiricy theorests, I am a
: games designer and a 3D artist and I am telling you that the
: graphics engine may well be capible of produceing somthing
: near what we saw in that movie, but what we had was a
: prerender with the AA turned off as well as the motion blur
: and other effects. Now it would have fooled me into
: thinking it was the real game graphics if it was not for the
: shadows and the Spectacular and lighting effects were to
: accurate for a game engine to run at any reliable or
: playable rate. Now ask your self this what would you prefer,
: 1 to have the pre render and be let down or to have the
: video of the proper engine working??

You forget that the XBOX has a monster of a graphics card, and the top of the line of hardware for any console. It's going to be a long time til someone actually meets the limit of the system. I can see the engine running on a machine that can theoretically render 166 million polygons, Advanced Shading, and per-pixel-texturing. While maintaining a healthy fps.

Now on this WMP9, of course Winblowz Media Player is gonna suck. It always has, the only reason its so popular is because it was bundled with almost all PCs. I seriously doubt that Microsoft would place another companies product before their own. We will never see a QT playable file ever from them. You seem to forget that the teaser also came in QT6 format for other people. I'd rather stick a nail through my hand before using WMP.

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

There is also that this game is coming to the Xbox... what's that mean? Well, it's the same graphics-quality argument from two years ago. That is, Bungie doesn't have to worry about a million possible configurations between graphics cards, sound cards, processors, RAM, motherboards, controllers and any other hardware which end-users may see fit to attach to their computers. They have the Xbox's stats, and they can optimize their engine to take maximum advantage of the excellent hardware which is available to them. Because they only have to tweak for one, and ONLY one, hardware setup, they are able to use the full capabilities of the Xbox. Most PC games will honestly not use your PC to its full potential, because the code is just not that specific to your system, usually. I believe Carmack even said you might see up to double the performance on an Xbox, vs. what you might expect on similar PC hardware with standard PC games.

That's a tremendous advantage.

Duke: the Halo 2 movie was planned for three reasons:

- To show off the new Halo 2 engine. (This IS the engine... so start your drooling)

- To introduce the new and improved Master Chief™.

- To start building interest for the game. This reminds me an awful lot of the original Aliens 3 preview we saw in theatres... which preceded the horrible Aliens3 movie.

~ Noctavis


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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

yeah. if you have read anything on the bungie site or halo.bungie.org it says that the trailer is ALL IN ENGINE and i personally think that what we saw may be part of the opening sequence.

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

When John Carmack was talking about Doom III on the xbox at quakecon '02, he mentioned the xbox as essentially a pc with a geforce 4 and a half. Now, no game in existance takes full advantage of the GeForce 4, let alone the 3. Backwards compatability is part of what it is. If a game required a card as fast as a GeForce 4, then they would be lmiting their market. To turn a profit, developers design a game so that they can run it on lesser tech. It used to be that games would come out and it would push the limits and then some of a top end sytem. This is no longer the case, due to much increased production costs, and a slower growing PC market. The XBOX has a huge advantage in that it has only one hardware configuration, minimal OS (based off win 2000 and only about 1MB in size), and a lower cost than a pc. It does not have to load OS aspects that allow it to surf the web or run word proccessors. All it's resorces are dedicated to games. The cost of it also allows it to reach a much broader gaming market. More consumers = an oportunity for more game sales which allows developers to spend more time on visuals and (hopefully) story, yet still turn a profit. As the XBOX sales grow, so will the visuals in the games as is demonstrated in the Halo2 trailer.
When Halo was first anounced, it was for the PC. I believe even before the GeForce series (of not at the begining of it.) It was then converted onto the XBOX and as tech improved new effects and capabilities were added to the rendering engine. In no way is it taking full advantage in any of the xbox's tech. It, at its core, is desinged for old tech from several years ago. Halo2 is desinged from the ground up to take full advantage of the xbox. These new effects in the new trailer are more than possible.
The XBOX was desinged to last 5 years and it certainly will do so with games like Halo.

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

Sargent Spaz wrote on Monday, 09/9/2002 - 2:36 am:

: The XBOX was desinged to last 5 years and it certainly
: will do so with games like Halo.

No console lasts five years. The PS1 is a little bit older than that, and it's already been surpassed by the PS2, which now has a larger installed base than its predecessor. And because of backwards compatibility, there's no incentive to develop new PS1 titles-- people who upgraded can still play their old games, so buying a new box didn't mean building a whole new game collection.

The Xbox will be surpassed in less than five years. If not by the Xbox2, then by something else. And if there is little improvement in the sales picture over the next 18 months, the Xbox2 might be the last iteration to see the light of day. Sony is already flooding the market with PS3 FUD.



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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

I own both a PS1, PS2, and a XBOX. I also own nine games for the PS2, and only 3 games for the XBOX. Just to let you know, I have owned my PS2 for about a year and a half. I have owned my XBOX for 4 months now. Since I got my XBOX, all my PS2 is doing is collecting dust. It's been atleast 4 months since Ive even touched the thing. I also think that for about 3 months, the only game in my XBOX has been the Halo disc. Personally, I think XBOX will last 5 years, especially if Sony's internet gameplay keeps up the crappy job. Microsoft specializes in internet and that sort of thing. If Sony makes a PS3, they better do a whole lot better designing than they did with the PS2. I know, because my PS2 sucks compared to my XBOX. Just think of how awesome GTA3 would have been if they made it for XBOX (a much faster and graphically enhanced gaming system that PS2). Thats just my opinion!!!

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

theduke wrote on Sunday, 09/8/2002 - 2:57 pm:

:
: Call me old fashioned, but! I thought the days of the old
: pre rendered adds trying to be the game graphics was coming
: to an end...
:
: or not as it would appear..
:
: What I am talking about and my slightly sinicle veiw.
:
: I thought Halo, the holy grail of games was, the best
: thing scine Rick Dangerouse on the Amiga. I have great
: expectations of halo 2 and I think, well I no, it will be a
: sucsess but! do we have to see prerendered graphics instead
: of the real game engine?
:
: When I downloaded the Movie the buggy beta of media player
: 9 and read the review of the movie from bungie, I was in
: great or
: ore. It was not until I watched the movie for the second
: time did I notice that its a complete fabrication, desined
: to get us to download WM9 and to be hyped up by bungie. Now
: I am not one of those Xfiles Conspiricy theorests, I am a
: games designer and a 3D artist and I am telling you that the
: graphics engine may well be capible of produceing somthing
: near what we saw in that movie, but what we had was a
: prerender with the AA turned off as well as the motion blur
: and other effects. Now it would have fooled me into
: thinking it was the real game graphics if it was not for the
: shadows and the Spectacular and lighting effects were to
: accurate for a game engine to run at any reliable or
: playable rate. Now ask your self this what would you prefer,
: 1 to have the pre render and be let down or to have the
: video of the proper engine working??
:
: Please Let me Know..
:
: The Duke

Those ARE engine rendered. Not prerendered. No promotional movie for Halo or Halo 2 presented in the last three years has been prerendered. All rendered in real time since the first one in 1999.



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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

: ...I am a
: games designer and a 3D artist...

heh, time to update

: ...Now ask your self this what would you prefer,
: 1 to have the pre render and be let down or to have the
: video of the proper engine working??

Yes, I agree, this trailer is just made with the current crappy engine, the future game will have a much better engine and FX

(ps for the ironicaly challenged: yada yada)
(pps, hey noccie!)

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: Please Let me Know..
:
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OK, I will…
>>Just go to XBOX.com!!!....an get schooled

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word

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Re: Halo 2, Is it? or, Is it not? anouther pre rendered sequence

I am new here, and i am just visiting but the new halo 2 trailer (i know it was just a chance for Microsoft to give out the new beta of wmp9) was acctualy processed off an x-box, then run through a computer to make it into a playable movie. All the biutifull graphics you see there are REAL. Bungie meant that they created a new engine and they MEANT that it was going to be a LOT better than that of the first engine. I've run the movie and played it numerous times (going through it with a fine tooth comb) and shure, they added the sounds and the folley but the graphics are real as they can get. The thing is, is that you guys have not seen what the X-box's limits are. it's got a friggin P3 for a processor for crying out loud. It's about time we saw what this amazing system is capable of. Halo is just a tidbit to what is to come. I hope you are ready you bunch of cynics and skeptics.

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WMP9 vs.QT6; XBOX=HDTV; New music in HALO2 trailer

>>I love QT6Pro but my WMPlayer9 works OK (I just wish it hade those QT codecs that make it possible to go frame by frame) (I guess they tried with that new slow-motion feature).

I know “IN-Engine” graphics when I see them and the trailer looks like its testosterone fueled!!!!
>>We all must remember that the Xbox was designed to do ‘High-definition’ so almost all the games for it never push-it to its limits.
I think, until NOW.
*************
The trailer only lets us know that this game will kick all forms of ass over other FPS.
EVEN “DOOM III”!
HAY don’t bust on me…DOOM III will look and play great but HALO2s story is tight!
*************
I have to admit that I really got that “I’m a hero in a ‘big budget’ movie feeling” when I played halo the first time.
Not just because of the graphics but, because the stores better then some.
Heck, when I was playing HALO my MOM thought it sounded like I was watching an Action Movie!!! HAHA…HEHE.

>>Also did anyone else like the new halo sound the way it began as the current theme and smoothly added the female over-tones that was just the perfect touch to a sequel like this one.

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i hope the music in halo 2 is as good as halo. rember on SC when u come outta the bunker and that kick ass guitar is playing. that was AWESOM!

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HDTV

1080i won't happen but it sure would be sweet.

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supadrai wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 11:54 am:

: 1080i won't happen but it sure would be sweet.

Sure would be sweet.

I think if Bungie wanted to keep the graphics in Halo 2 at the same quality as the original (feature-wise) then they probably could have increased the resolution while at the same time guaranteeing the 30 fps they didn't quite manage in the first game, but it looks like they're adding a LOT of bells and whistles to the new engine; I'm assuming status quo on the other two counts: probably a maximum 640x480 resolution, and somewhere around 30fps (most of the time).


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Re: HDTV

narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 1:13 pm:

: supadrai wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 11:54 am:
:
: : 1080i won't happen but it sure would be sweet.
:

wow i can oly dream.

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Re: HDTV

Spartin wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 12:25 pm:

: narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 1:13 pm:
:
: : supadrai wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 11:54 am:
: :
: : : 1080i won't happen but it sure would be sweet.
: :
:
: wow i can oly dream.
:
: kiwi

ok im lost. 1080i?

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1080 wha...?

shibby wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 6:43 pm:

: ok im lost. 1080i?

1080 Lines of resolution (wich translates to 1920x1080 resolution). The "i" means the screen is interlaced (2 passes to refresh one frame)
This site will give you all the nitty gritty:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/hdtv.htm

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Sargent Spaz wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 9:51 pm:

: shibby wrote on Tuesday, 09/10/2002 - 6:43 pm:
:
: : ok im lost. 1080i?
:
:
: 1080 Lines of resolution (wich translates to 1920x1080
: resolution). The "i" means the screen is interlaced (2
: passes to refresh one frame)
: This site will give you all the nitty gritty:
: http://www.howstuffworks.com/hdtv.htm

ok
i get it.

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WMP9 vs.QT6

QT will always be better that WMP. QT is made by Apple, WMP is made my Microsuck

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Re: WMP9 vs.QT6

SBravo wrote on Thursday, 09/26/2002 - 10:17 pm:

: QT will always be better that WMP. QT is made by Apple,
: WMP is made my Microsuck

Amen to that. Microsuck blows :P

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Re: WMP9 vs.QT6

It's all very well and fashionable to insult Microsoft and Bill Gates, but when it comes down to it, MS has done an awful lot for the benefit of us.
I find QT to be both annoying and clumsy. Media player [I don't use the latter Xp versions] does the job with little fuss.
Think before you try and look cool by 'dissing' MS.

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Sir Fragula wrote on Thursday, 10/17/2002 - 5:43 am:

: It's all very well and fashionable to insult Microsoft and
: Bill Gates, but when it comes down to it, MS has done an
: awful lot for the benefit of us.
: I find QT to be both annoying and clumsy. Media player [I
: don't use the latter Xp versions] does the job with little
: fuss.
: Think before you try and look cool by 'dissing' MS.

no one's trying to look cool MS just makes a lot of crapy products, But at least their macintosh software division makes quality stuff. WMP is the 2nd slowest media player I've used I even use QT on my PC.

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How I think Halo 2 SHOULD be!!!

As far as Halo (one) went, the Bungie team did an outstanding job with this game. Considering the fact that they were rushed by Microsoft to complete the game hints that Bungie should make Halo 2 at least 50 times better. Even though I literally love to play Halo, there are some things that I wish Halo had. Here is a list of what I think Halo 2 needs.

--In multiplayer games, they should include the option to have every
vehicle available in that multiplayer level. For example, in Halo
you could customize the gametype in multiplayer, it allowed you
to choose what vehicles you wanted for that level, but they did
not include the Banshee for multiplayer usage. I love to fly the
Banshee, think of how fun it would be to fly it in multiplayer
against your friends!

--Halo 2 needs to support more than 2 players to join into a
cooperative game, and at the same time, allow either system link
coop and XBOX Live coop as well.

--Halo 2 needs to have "bots" available for multiplayer, even though
bots are not real poeple you play against, they can still make a
small (as in a few players) game more fun. You should also be able
to edit the bots as well: such as choose their model, skill, weapon
preferences, personality traits (rushers, snipers, or more), and
vehicle usage.

--Halo 2 should have a larger selection of multiplayer modes. For
instance, say you wanted to see how long you and your buddy can
hold the fort against oncoming Covenant controlled by the XBOX,
just like the multiplayer coop game for the first Aliens vs
Predator game where the aliens just keep comming. I just think
that a larger chioce of multiplayer scenarios should be available.
Not just where you always have to have 3 or 4 people to have fun
on multiplayer.

--Halo 2 should also give you the options to give orders to those
pesky little Marines who always got in the way. Orders such as
"hold this position", "cover me", "go, go, go", "take that enemy
out", ...stuff like that would be great.

--Halo 2 should also learn from the highly successful internet game
Counterstrike. For online play, Halo 2 needs a similar game type
where it's the Marines vs. the Covenant. As in Counterstrike, you
should be able to choose your side, the model you want, and the
weapons you carry. Maybe throw in some vehicles to drive also. That
would be awesome.

--Halo 2 also needs to have some really cool urban environments,
since the game will be on Earth. Maybe a lot more environment
interaction, like trees falling down when you shoot them and
stuff like that.

As far as single player campaigns went for Halo (one), Halo 2 should
base its single player on it, just improve some small things with their new engine to run Halo 2 on. As you can see, I mainly dwelled on the fact that Halo 2 needs some better multiplayer stuff. Not that the original Halo has bad multiplayer, there are just some things I wished it had. To bad I don't work for Bungie, then I might be able to get them to put all the above into Halo 2. Im sure they will do a great job though. Just seems like an awfully long wait, but I know it will be worth it.

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Re: How I think Halo 2 SHOULD be!!!

some good points and i agree in the most part.

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Re: How I think Halo 2 SHOULD be!!!

I want to fight around New York and London and stuff. Just imagine thousands of troops clashing in the streets. Cowering under cover as explosions wreak havoc. Imagine seeing ships dogfighting in the air. Leaping atop a dropship and throwing a grenade into a mantinance shaft, and leaping off through a window as it blows. Also, though this is a pipe dream, a fully interactive world. Imagine turning it on for a quick go, and tooling up to get some. A bit like GTA 3 only more war.

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i wanna see a planet glassed. and then hang out on it afterwords.

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Armourless...maybe?

I wonder if Bungie are planning for the Master Chief to take his helmet off.. Hope not, but if he was going to I hope its because he gets captured or something and has his armour removed, then you have to fight your way out of a security section to get it back, with no shields... sounds like quite a good challenge.

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Re: Armourless...maybe?

c0ld vengeance wrote on Tuesday, 11/5/2002 - 12:13 pm:

: I wonder if Bungie are planning for the Master Chief to
: take his helmet off.. Hope not, but if he was going to I
: hope its because he gets captured or something and has his
: armour removed, then you have to fight your way out of a
: security section to get it back, with no shields... sounds
: like quite a good challenge.
:
: c0ld

There is no way that Bungie will show Master Cheif's face, the entire first game you had to guess what the MC looks like they wont change that all in Halo 2.

They will proberbly flesh out his character a bit more but you wont see him.

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CUT SCENES

I don't think I have seen anyone chat about the cut scenes in Halo2 so far, and I think that they are a key factor in making a game more enjoyable. All the cut-scenes in Halo revolved around conversations that asked some questions, and answered a few. Remember FF7 on the PS1? When I played that game, I kept playing to see a good cg movie. I know that wont be the case with halo, of course, HOWEVER, I do think that some frequent action-packed cut scenes (Using the Halo2 engine, not prerendering, of course) would make the single player game much much much more enjoyable. The trailor was a pretty cool scene. I want to see frequent scenes like that throughout the game, only BETTER. I want to see them in the middle of missions, not just in the beginning and end. In Halo, almost all the cut scenes are before and after a level. They are all pretty lame scenes too - excluding the ending, it was ok. Cut scenes add a huge element of drama to the game that just could not exist without incorporating them. For example: I never really HATED the covenant when I was playing Halo. I just ran around and shot at them because they shot at me. If there had been some scenes depicting just how mean, and evil, and hateful the covenant really were, I would have enjoyed killing the little bastards that much more. Also, it would be nice to see scenes of the chief being a royal badass like he is, doing some more crazy stuff like he did in the end of the trailor. Does anyone else agree?

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I would agree. After reading EGM's article about Halo2, I believe that Halo 2 will have no trouble with their graphics. Therefore their cutscenes should be quite cinematic. Although, in EGM's acticle they tell us that "about 70% of the story will unfold while you're controlling chief, so there'll be fewer breaks in the action." I also like that idea too, but when they do have cut scenes, I invision action packed fire-fights with vehicles flying everywhere from explosions and Master Chief engaging into lightning speed hand to hand combat Bruce Lee style. Whatever happens though, in know Bungie's Halo 2 will surely cause relationships to break down and homework graes to drop!!! (by the way, did you ever think about buying stocks related to Halo 2, hey...it could work!!)

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Cortana/Covenant

I think cortana should play more of a part in the game like, she should talk alot more and sound frustrated with the covenant and stuff like that, and it has to have a wider variety of covenant, weapons, vehicles, guns, and I think that little bastard of a monitor should come back and try to get revenge, after all he is an AI constuct. We also need some better trained marines!!!

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Re: Cortana/Covenant

_-[Cortana should take over a a small hovering robot
*cough*cough Monitor*cough*cough* so you're life would be alot easier

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da new egm halo 2 insite

i dont know if any of you have egm subscription but if not then look for the November issue comming out this october. On the front cover is what else Halo 2. the insede has some jusie stuff including the lo-down on 2 new covie races. One is so far known as the "space pope" he has a ling neck and zooms around in a hoverchair. The other 1 is so far know as the "brute" i is about as tall as an elete harry and caries what are called "boom stick" witcyh look like high-tech pipe bombs. It has some new vicles including, get this, 4 different warthogs. There is the original, There is one that looks like the originalbut has jungle camo all over. There is an artic one that is white and the doors open like the "back to the future" car(dolorian). Then the last is a warthog without a gun and has a cage in the back and is used as a troop transport. And there is the one that I am excited about it is completely new. U know how u guys want a motorcycle. Well this is pretty close. It is like a 4 weeler that they say is mainly used to get snipers to the top of cliffs. As of yet it has no weapons. It also shows 2 new weapons the "battle rifle" witch is shown on the halo 2 preview basicly the as wit some other gizmos on it. then there is a "sub-machinegun" that u carry around. It ain't tooooo acurate but it shoots fast. It also has what will be in halo 2. 100% chance another halo. 100% chance flood. 80% chance 343 guilty sparck. .001 % captian keys never say never in sci-fi.
there are loads of more stuff like the enemey ai and such so check it out.

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Re: da new egm halo 2 insite

Spartin wrote on Wednesday, 09/25/2002 - 2:52 pm:

One
: is so far known as the "space pope" he has a ling neck and
: zooms around in a hoverchair.

o yea profet (sp) is it technal name but it looks like a space pope.

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Re: da new egm halo 2 insite

Whats there website adress?

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Big Gun

It would be nice if halo 2 has 150mm gun enplacments. Like a turret coming from a bunker. It could devasate the surronding area.

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Re: Big Gun

like human versions of the covenant shade gun?

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Re: Big Gun

System Failure wrote on Tuesday, 10/1/2002 - 7:50 pm:

: It would be nice if halo 2 has 150mm gun enplacments. Like
: a turret coming from a bunker. It could devasate the
: surronding area.

It would be cool have, but what would be the point unless they have huge scale infantry advances(talking about 100s and 1000s of enemies). There really isn't any point to it if you're only gunna have a max of 10 guys coming at you at a time.

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Re: Big Gun

wodasini wrote on Tuesday, 10/15/2002 - 8:04 pm:

: System Failure wrote on Tuesday, 10/1/2002 - 7:50 pm:
:
: : It would be nice if halo 2 has 150mm gun enplacments.
: Like
: : a turret coming from a bunker. It could devasate the
: : surronding area.
:
: It would be cool have, but what would be the point unless
: they have huge scale infantry advances(talking about 100s
: and 1000s of enemies). There really isn't any point to it
: if you're only gunna have a max of 10 guys coming at you at
: a time.

True... but we can dream, can't we? :-)

Good to see you again, wod!



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Re: Big Gun

narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 10/15/2002 - 7:28 pm:

: wodasini wrote on Tuesday, 10/15/2002 - 8:04 pm:
:
: : System Failure wrote on Tuesday, 10/1/2002 - 7:50 pm:
: :
: : : It would be nice if halo 2 has 150mm gun
: enplacments.
: : Like
: : : a turret coming from a bunker. It could devasate the
: : : surronding area.
: :
: : It would be cool have, but what would be the point
: unless
: : they have huge scale infantry advances(talking about
: 100s
: : and 1000s of enemies). There really isn't any point to
: it
: : if you're only gunna have a max of 10 guys coming at you
: at
: : a time.
:
: True... but we can dream, can't we? :-)
:
: Good to see you again, wod!
:
:


Narcogen

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Re: Big Gun

wodasini wrote on Wednesday, 10/16/2002 - 2:32 am:

: narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 10/15/2002 - 7:28 pm:
:
: : wodasini wrote on Tuesday, 10/15/2002 - 8:04 pm:
: :
: : : System Failure wrote on Tuesday, 10/1/2002 - 7:50
: pm:
: : :
: : : : It would be nice if halo 2 has 150mm gun
: : enplacments.
: : : Like
: : : : a turret coming from a bunker. It could devasate
: the
: : : : surronding area.
: : :
: : : It would be cool have, but what would be the point
: : unless
: : : they have huge scale infantry advances(talking about
: : 100s
: : : and 1000s of enemies). There really isn't any point
: to
: : it
: : : if you're only gunna have a max of 10 guys coming at
: you
: : at
: : : a time.
: :
: : True... but we can dream, can't we? :-)
: :
: : Good to see you again, wod!
: :
: :


Narcogen


:
: good to see rampancy is still going quite a change from
: the dieing myth community!

Well, we're somewhere between that and the brisk business that HBO is doing. They've done an awesome job of tackling the community-based features that are relevant to Halo 1, despite the lack of any mods or officially supported Internet play: tips, tricks, movies, fanfic and art.

We're hoping that Halo 2 and other upcoming games from Bungie will allow a greater variety in community coverage-- and give us here at Rampancy more to talk about :)



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Re: Big Gun

In the first part of the book "The fall of Reach" there is a battle between the spartans and about 1000 grunts... this is the type of battle I would like to see. In that battle they had a few weapons not in the game like mines and a tactical nuke but a human turret would be cool for that. If Halo 2 takes place near or on earth like ive heard.. the battlefeilds could be large enough to do such a thing as have a giant 1000+ unit battle. Turrets would be very nice for this. Hmm, maybe a shoulder nuke like the ones from starship troopers... *drool*.

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Re: Big Gun

Joe Kerh wrote on Saturday, 10/19/2002 - 5:45 pm:

: In the first part of the book "The fall of Reach" there is
: a battle between the spartans and about 1000 grunts... this
: is the type of battle I would like to see. In that battle
: they had a few weapons not in the game like mines and a
: tactical nuke but a human turret would be cool for that. If
: Halo 2 takes place near or on earth like ive heard.. the
: battlefeilds could be large enough to do such a thing as
: have a giant 1000+ unit battle. Turrets would be very nice
: for this. Hmm, maybe a shoulder nuke like the ones from
: starship troopers... *drool*.

Now that will be good.

If Halo 2 is set on Earth they will have to have some sort of stationary weapon around bases.

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Re: Big New Gun

Have you seen the shoots of the new guns in EGM magazine, nice looking AR and a sub machine gun, that will be good.

Also have you seen the new variations of the warthog, they look damn good!

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Re: Big New Gun

They need an M50 by itself or on the back of the snow hog. If part of you're body is within a 2ft radius of a M50 shell when it passes that body part would be most likely ripped of.

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Halo 2... In my thoughts and prayers

Here are some interesting ideas about halo and how it could be improved (or made more interesting) through halo 2. (mostly ones relavent to multi player.)

1. -Weapons-
OPINIONS-
I loved the balance of weapons in halo 1. Human weapons that is. Maybe its just my agressive play-type, but I rareley find myself using a plasma weapon let alone a needler (in multiplayer anyways.)
I reallly wish the covanent arsenal included a sniper rifle*, a plasma machine gun**, or even an elite's sword would be neat. I liked the existing grenades, but why not ripp off counterstrike and bust out some smoke grenades and flashbangs? As for the assault rifle, I guess they've already decided about that in egm's cover of halo 2. Lets hope it does some damage. And this is spose to be the future, right? Where the heck is the laser sighting? Ah maybe i'm wrong about that last one, it'd probably be more for show i guess.
CONCEPTUAL IDEAS-
*I hear there are going to be plenty of new weapons for covanent and humans alike, and this is one i'd really like to see come throught. I would imagine somethine like a long range version of the sentry's laser beam. There'd be no one shot kill's but it'd be great for people who can't aim and would work wonders against people in wide open spaces. It would be capable of over-heating.
**My answer to the covanent machine gun/shotgun. I'd imagine it to shoot tons of small bits of plasma, but not have the kind of spray-recoil the assault rifle does, more like a bunch of individual barrels that fired at the same speed but in random patterns.

2. -Vehicles-
OPINIONS-
Absolutley nothing wrong with the orginals, just wish there were a bigger variety. I would've loved to use the covanent tank somehow in halo 1, not to mention the banshee. Another thing that i really thought should have been available were SHADE turrets for multi-player mode... oh well. From what i've heard so far there's gonna be 3 new versions of the warthog. Keep em comin..
CONCEPTUAL IDEAS-
I'll stick to letting bungie make it's own vehicles, but one thing i did think would be neat would be a probe of some kind. Floating or crawling.... kinda like that little remote controlled spider in the new turok game. Whether it would have any kind of defensive mechanism er not is beyond me, these are all crazy ideas that could probably throw the games balance off totally.

4. -Characters-
OPINIONS-
Not much to say here. Might be a little more fun to have more customizable attire, not unlike so many pro skating games these days.
CONCEPTUAL IDEAS-
Your probably thinkin, what's this freak tryin to sell me here? There's only one charcter d****t! Well, i think it would be neat if we had a little diversity in inborn abilities here. Basically there'd be the three known races, covanent* (probably an elite er somethin), human** (mc conditioner), and flood*** (the dominent one not the marine one).
* Covanent would basically be physically tougher,a little more melee damage, a little more shields, and possibly better/more accurate with covenent weapons.
** Humans play as master chief, so he'd stay the way he is.... "master of any weapon, pilot of any vehicle". He'd be the par for health , jumping ability, strength at melee and throwin grenades. Only he'd be best with human weapons of course, making of for his lack of the flood and covenents inborn abilities.
*** Flood would have a horribly strong melee, super super jump and landing factor, and alot of speed i'm guessing. Only downfall is that they'd be poor with all weapons and and have good health but no shields.

3. -Maps-
OPINIONS-
Halo had some great multi-player maps (my fave bein damnation.)The only thing i have to say is probably more facility like arenas with lots of doors and things to sneak around. The think i like best about damntion is that its not just a big circle, it has long halways for snipin and close quarters for casual shotguning and sneaky melee attacks. but its not a maze either... its simple but not simple enough to know every corner before the head shot is made.
CONCEPTUAL IDEAS-
Uhhhh... how bout a flag where u have 2 airbases, barley visable of each other, no land between them, only air. A banshee to banshee dog fight?

well, not much else to input other than i'm a bit worried about Xbox live with no keyboard (yea i know theres a headset.) Otherwise i gues i've put more than my 2 cents in here, hope you enjoyed it

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