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Re: Halo 2 Subtitle?

Well, it could be "Halo 2: Cortana".

"Combat Even More Evolved" is probably not on the list.

"Covenant Chicks Are Easy" probably also isn't getting a lot of votes.

acrappa wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 4:18 am:

: The 'Combat Evolved' bit never seemed Bungie-like to me
: and I bet it was a Microsoft 'suggestion'. I do like the tag
: though.
:
: As for Halo 2 suggestions, I can't come up with any. It's
: hard to think of one without knowing jack about the game.
:
: - Matt
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: narcogen wrote on Monday, 08/12/2002 - 11:52 pm:
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: : Should Halo 2 have such a subtitle? What should it be?



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I think Halo 2: Homeworld sounds good. It has been kicking around boards for the past few days. Considering Halo 2 will take place on at least Earth it sounds good to me. There is also a possibility(quite small) that Master Chief will go to one of the Covanent Homeworlds. That would also fall in line with that subtitle.

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narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 2:11 am:

: Well, it could be "Halo 2: Cortana".
:
: "Combat Even More Evolved" is probably not on the list.

Hells, that's the one I was gonna suggest! I think it sounds pretty good, but maybe it's just me. =)

: "Covenant Chicks Are Easy" probably also isn't getting a
: lot of votes.
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Matt S. on HBO suggested "Combat Rewound", where you play the whole first game backwards. :)

Ishamael wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 3:16 pm:

: narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 2:11 am:
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: : Well, it could be "Halo 2: Cortana".
: :
: : "Combat Even More Evolved" is probably not on the
: list.
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:
: Hells, that's the one I was gonna suggest! I think it
: sounds pretty good, but maybe it's just me. =)
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:
: : "Covenant Chicks Are Easy" probably also isn't getting
: a
: : lot of votes.
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Halo: Last Defense

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Halo: The Phantom Menace...
Just kidding!

How about Halo: Reloaded?
I supposed there's always Halo 2: Electric Boogaloo...
A good ad slogan would be "Your poet Elliot had it all wrong. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS" But I'm not sure if everyone would get it...

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DQ wrote on Sunday, 08/18/2002 - 12:32 am:

: Halo: The Phantom Menace...
: Just kidding!
:
: How about Halo: Reloaded?
: I supposed there's always Halo 2: Electric Boogaloo...
: A good ad slogan would be "Your poet Elliot had it all
: wrong. THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS" But I'm not sure if
: everyone would get it...

Ha.

In that case it should be "Halo 2: The Wasteland" :)



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i dunno but maybe somthing lyk ... HALO 2 "earth" or HALO 2 "back to the battle" since he IS returning to the battle for earth.....
HALO 2 "battle for earth"?

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narcogen wrote on Monday, 08/12/2002 - 11:52 pm:

: (Halo's was "Combat Evolved", although it still seems
: unclear whether that was actually a part of the game's title
: or just a catchphrase added by someone in Marketing.

It's the latter. Neither the title screen nor the game disc itself carry the "Combat Evolved" tag - a subtle but important distinction. It's in all the printed materials and ads and press releases because the Marketing folks don't ever want someone who hasn't already bought the game to see the word "Halo" by itself. Nothing about that word screams "running around with guns shooting people," and that bothered Marketing to virtually no end.

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I think it could be Halo:distroction of earth

somethin like that

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It says Halo: Comabt Evolved on the cover of my manual, but I never think of it as that. I always called it Halo.

If the Chief is going home, and his real name is John (no joke!) perhaps it could be called

Halo: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!

Seriously though, I like some of the suggestions we've had here, but I'll probably be called something like Halo: Redux (redux means 'brought back').

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Dallon wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 4:10 pm:

: Seriously though, I like some of the suggestions we've had
: here, but I'll probably be called something like Halo: Redux
: (redux means 'brought back').

It might.. but that's a kind of cheesy way to title a sequel, and Bungie doesn't usually do things that way :)



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Good! So, you think they might like my heeeeeeeeeeeer's Johnny idea? ;)

I'd love to see the Master Chief smash through a door with a plasma sword and yell that!

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Dallon wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 10:54 pm:

: Good! So, you think they might like my heeeeeeeeeeeer's
: Johnny idea? ;)
:
: I'd love to see the Master Chief smash through a door with
: a plasma sword and yell that!

Gimme the plasma sword, Wendy... I said GIVE ME THE PLASMA SWORD!



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Dallon wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 4:10 pm:

: It says Halo: Comabt Evolved on the cover of my manual,
: but I never think of it as that. I always called it Halo.
:
: If the Chief is going home, and his real name is John (no
: joke!) perhaps it could be called

His name was John and once he was taken for a sparton he was john 117 or sparton 117. U find this out in the book "halo:the fall of reach"
which is a really good book

: Halo: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!
:
: Seriously though, I like some of the suggestions we've had
: here, but I'll probably be called something like Halo: Redux
: (redux means 'brought back').

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SniperView wrote on Sunday, 08/25/2002 - 4:58 pm:

: Dallon wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 4:10 pm:
:
: : It says Halo: Comabt Evolved on the cover of my
: manual,
: : but I never think of it as that. I always called it
: Halo.
: :
: : If the Chief is going home, and his real name is John
: (no
: : joke!) perhaps it could be called
:
: His name was John and once he was taken for a sparton he
: was john 117 or sparton 117. U find this out in the book
: "halo:the fall of reach"
: which is a really good book
:
: : Halo: Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny!
: :
: : Seriously though, I like some of the suggestions we've
: had
: : here, but I'll probably be called something like Halo:
: Redux
: : (redux means 'brought back').
: It should be called Halo2 come home

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Maybe they'll go down the E.T. route.

M.C. Phone Home!!!

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It might be Halo2: An armies revenge. or
Halo2:The apocolypse

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Maye they won't actually call it Halo at all? After all, the sequel is set on earth and has nothing to with the Halos. Maybe it'll have a new name with "the sequel to Halo" as a subtitle.

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Ryan formerly Dallon wrote on Friday, 09/13/2002 - 12:03 am:

: Maye they won't actually call it Halo at all? After all,
: the sequel is set on earth and has nothing to with the
: Halos. Maybe it'll have a new name with "the sequel to Halo"
: as a subtitle.

Anyway, I think it would be cool with the subtitle "war of earth

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thoughts on Story

Here is the perfect place to comment on the stoy of both Halos. Who were the forces alluded to in Combat Evolved, but never met... What is Guilty Spark?

Some things to discuss

  • Guilty Spark
  • Flood(how they survived)
  • MC
  • Cortona(rampant)
  • future correlations to Marathon
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Hmmm... let's see.

I think GS is just an AI left behind by the Forerunners/Jjaro to help guard Halo and the Flood.

I think "Reclaimer" is also supposed to be an AI (or a cyborg) with a specific role to play in the event of an outbreak (GS is the brains, Reclaimer is the brawn).

I think the Flood can survive in isolation in some form probably for a long time. Howeer, it's obvious that such a large structure as Halo, with varied terrain and weather, was NOT meant just to store something like Flood infection forms in tiny little rooms buried under the surface.

The whole point of the thing to me seems to be a closed environment where the Forerunners could scientifically observe dangerous races like the Flood interacting with other races in controlled circumstances in a wide variety of settings. Of course, this scenario does NOT include Human and Covenant ships crashing into it and releasing the Flood unexpectedly, leading to a risk of them escaping.

With no mention of the Flood (only Covenant) so far in Halo 2 materials, I'm guessing that:

1) Halo 2 will take place at least in part on another Halo
2) That Halo will contain some other dangerous race, but not Flood.

I think MC will turn out to have played the role of Reclaimer once before, but in a future timeline that goes into the past of the first game's ring, but this won't happen until the third game. Think Marathon Infinity :)

I think possible Rampancy for Cortana started out as a story factor and then got eliminated-- the only trace of it remaining is her aggressive attitude when inside the Core, which seems to go away the minute she's out.

I think GS is a better candidate for Rampancy.

Army Of One wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 6:16 pm:

: Here is the perfect place to comment on the stoy of both
: Halos. Who were the forces alluded to in Combat Evolved,
: but never met... What is Guilty Spark?

: Some things to discuss
:

    :
  • Guilty Spark
    :
  • Flood(how they survived)
    :
  • MC
    :
  • Cortona(rampant)
    :
  • future correlations to Marathon
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Re: thoughts on Story

In the releases, Bungie said that Halo 2 would be set on Earth... At least, that's what one of the trailer shows. Maybe it starts on Earth, and ends in the covenant home world. possibly.

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Army Of One wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 10:08 pm:

: In the releases, Bungie said that Halo 2 would be set on
: Earth... At least, that's what one of the trailer shows.
: Maybe it starts on Earth, and ends in the covenant home
: world. possibly.

Maybe with a second ring in the middle. Or maybe no ring at all.

After all, "Marathon" remained in the title of the Marathon games long after the "Marathon" itself was no longer one of the settings.



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ok everybody here is SHIBBYS THOUGHTS ON HALO 2's STORY: ok one i think my theory is correct but i dont kno about the WHOLE game... so here it goes. i found a picture at halo.bungi.org under wallpaper on the second to last link,(its number 43) and this is a picture of a planet on fire and a covinant cruiser shooting a beam at the surface. if all of u have read THE FALL OF REACH u would know this is what the covinant do to destroy a planet, its called glassing. any ways in the pic u see a ship that is dammaged buy plasma fire. this ship looks lyk somthing we have seen before and i have identified it to be a longsword fighter JUST lyk the one MC used to get off HALO . and in the book MC wanted to save his fellow spartans so i think he goes back to rescue them. in another pic u seen a planet on fire and about to explode and a bunch of ships escaping . i think this exploding planet is reach and the ships r the MC and his spartans and they r heading into space and off in a corner is a small picture of earth so i think that they go back to earth or somthing. .... i dont kno much about marathon but its sounds lyk they really might be a sort of a prequel to halo..... PS:Army Of One, if u have the trailer send it to me PLZ

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You Should Have Read the Book

I think before you post your silly ponderings on the web you should use logic before a forum. You think the Halo ring was some guy at bungies imagination? Of course not, the whole thing is based on an old Hugo-Nebula winning novel called Ringworld by Larry Niven. I could answer alot of your questions just from reading the book because 99% of the whole ring part of "Halo" is straight from the book. For instance the next Halo as you said will either be on another Halo assuring us that the game will be just as fun to explore, or, bungie ran out of idea's and were going to playing Brute Force with Master Chief. The original book idea was for a ring approx. 300 million times the area of Earth, encircling the sun and orbiting at about 770 mi/sec. As you can obviously see the game did some major scaling down. I'm not going to spoil the book for you if you want to read but if you have any questions concerning anything just post it and I'll answer it.

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SillyChildGlowLikeMudPumpkin wrote on Monday, 08/19/2002 - 5:51 pm:

: I think before you post your silly ponderings on the web
: you should use logic before a forum. You think the Halo ring
: was some guy at bungies imagination? Of course not, the
: whole thing is based on an old Hugo-Nebula winning novel
: called Ringworld by Larry Niven.

Not true. Bungie stated very early on in Halo's development that it is NOT based on Niven's novel, and in fact about the only thing they share is the idea of a ringworld. The stories and characters themselves bear no resemblance whatsoever.

I could answer alot of your
: questions just from reading the book because 99% of the
: whole ring part of "Halo" is straight from the book. For
: instance the next Halo as you said will either be on another
: Halo assuring us that the game will be just as fun to
: explore, or, bungie ran out of idea's and were going to
: playing Brute Force with Master Chief. The original book
: idea was for a ring approx. 300 million times the area of
: Earth, encircling the sun and orbiting at about 770 mi/sec.
: As you can obviously see the game did some major scaling
: down.

No, it was just a different concept. Niven's ringworld encircled a sun. Bungie's ringworld encircles a LaGrange point. All of this was discussed nearly two years ago.

I'm not going to spoil the book for you if you want to
: read but if you have any questions concerning anything just
: post it and I'll answer it.

It's certainly a good book, and I'd suggest reading it, too-- but about the only thing the two works have in common is the idea of a spinning ring with a livable surface inside. That's it.



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Anyone read...

SillyChildGlowLikeMudPumpkin wrote on Monday, 08/19/2002 - 5:51 pm:

: I think before you post your silly ponderings on the web
: you should use logic before a forum. You think the Halo ring
: was some guy at bungies imagination? Of course not, the
: whole thing is based on an old Hugo-Nebula winning novel
: called Ringworld by Larry Niven.

If you havent, u ppl should all read the 'Culture' sci-fi novels by Iain M Banks. They mostly have ringworlds like halo in them and they nearly all have cunning drones similar to GS. GS's character reminds me of some of the more evil drones from the novels.

Not having read 'ringworld' I cant comment on your assesment, the size of halo in the Banks series is certainly a lot closer compared to your 300 million X area of earth.

Does the plot of Ringworld have any direct links to that of Halo?

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Dash (nOOb) wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 10:35 am:

: SillyChildGlowLikeMudPumpkin wrote on Monday, 08/19/2002 -
: 5:51 pm:
:
: : I think before you post your silly ponderings on the
: web
: : you should use logic before a forum. You think the Halo
: ring
: : was some guy at bungies imagination? Of course not,
: the
: : whole thing is based on an old Hugo-Nebula winning
: novel
: : called Ringworld by Larry Niven.
:
: If you havent, u ppl should all read the 'Culture' sci-fi
: novels by Iain M Banks. They mostly have ringworlds like
: halo in them and they nearly all have cunning drones similar
: to GS. GS's character reminds me of some of the more evil
: drones from the novels.

Actually, only a couple of the Banks' novels (which came long after Niven's) feature ringworlds prominently, most notably Consider Phlebas. The protagonist of Player of Games lives on one, although that novella is not set there.
:
: Not having read 'ringworld' I cant comment on your
: assesment, the size of halo in the Banks series is certainly
: a lot closer compared to your 300 million X area of earth.

Yes. Because Niven's ring surrounds a star-- in essence, it is as wide across in diameter as the orbit of the Earth.

In Banks and Halo, it's a much smaller structure.

In Halo, it circles a LaGrange point between the planet (Basis) and its moon (Threshold).
:
: Does the plot of Ringworld have any direct links to that
: of Halo?

To be honest, no, not at all. There is, against the backdrop of Niven's novel, a conflict between various interstellar species... but in the realm of science fiction that's hardly a similarity.

To expose the central point of Ringworld would be to spoil a good novel, so I won't do it :)



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Re: thoughts on Story

The Monitor says

'I am the monitor of installation zero four' which implies that there are more halo's.

He also says 'This installation has an effective range of 25,000 lightyears, but once the OTHERS follow suite, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life'.

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STory BREAKTHROUGH wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 3:16 pm:

: The Monitor says
:
: 'I am the monitor of installation zero four' which implies
: that there are more halo's.
:
: He also says 'This installation has an effective range of
: 25,000 lightyears, but once the OTHERS follow suite, this
: galaxy will be quite devoid of life'.

True, but not really a breakthrough. It's been a pretty wide assumption that there were other halos, from those 2 comments and other information.

What's a more common question is whether or not these other Halos will play a role in the story or not. The trend seem to be people think it will be set on Earth. Me, I'm not sure.

Other Halos don't have to be involved-- after all, they kept the title "Marathon" in that series long after the UESC colony ship was no longer a setting.



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narcogen wrote on Tuesday, 08/13/2002 - 9:13 pm:

Bla Bla Bla(sorry had to cut it down, no effence)

: With no mention of the Flood (only Covenant) so far in
: Halo 2 materials, I'm guessing that:

By the look of one of the wallpapers it shows the Master Chief on a background of earth after it has been glassed(the covenant fires plasma at the planet and destroyes everything on it)so i think halo 2 will be a story based around the covenant finding earth and the master chief finding the covenant homeworld and taking revenge for the loss of earth and reach.

: 1) Halo 2 will take place at least in part on another
: Halo
: 2) That Halo will contain some other dangerous race, but
: not Flood.

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ok, i don no that much bout halo compared to like everyone else here... i just have a few questions i would really like answered!! thanx

ok,

wat r the forerunners?
wat is Jjaro?
wat is the Reclaimer?
and i want to no a little more bout the fall of reach? like i heard Mc wanted to save his fellow SPARTANS... how did they die? etc...

thanx a lot

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Fall of reach ?

I make no excuses, I am a nOOb, I got really excited about Halo but have only played it a couple times on my friends Xbox and missed most of the FMV / narration (he has sound too quiet!)

What is the fall of reach?
Who are spartans?
How did U find out about that 'glassing' stuff?

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Dash (total nOOb) wrote on Wednesday, 09/4/2002 - 10:41 am:

: I make no excuses, I am a nOOb, I got really excited about
: Halo but have only played it a couple times on my friends
: Xbox and missed most of the FMV / narration (he has sound
: too quiet!)
:
: What is the fall of reach?

"The Fall of Reach" is a Halo prequel novel, authorized by MS/Bungie and written by Eric Nylund.

: Who are spartans?

Spartans are the cyborgs. The Master Chief is (supposedly) the last of these.

: How did U find out about that 'glassing' stuff?

It's mentioned in "Fall of Reach". It is what happens to that planet.



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Re: Fall of reach ?

Dash is tottaly right:
:what is fall of reach?
I didn't know! heres more to answer:
Where can you buy "Halo: Comat Evolved" the book?
How much books are there?
Dash is wrong, he is a total nOOb,
Is "The Pillar of Autumn" a covenant ship, it isn't! then why do you blow it up on "The Maw"?
Where do "The Flood" come from, what are they! If you think i'm a nOOb then just think again, I have the volume low too!

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Re: thoughts on Story.... Want to know somthing else?

Ok picture this Your in this room, and your trying to take out the Covenant, when all odds seem dead. It shows and alien coming to kill you with like a sword, then BAM to the ground, another MC comes in and helps you up. After him follow MC of all sizes, women, big men, small skinny men. Ect. From there on they are your "marines"

If we do go to another Halo, I want to see what Halo was, you know what Im talking about, Rockets on cars, animals, walking in this organic world, Hills upon Hills, that hold secrets and Structures, very open, the old sketches of the alien tank, you know the one where if you look close enough you will realize that the gun on that tank is the gun turret IN halo. Things that you can just look at and say.......shit...... (sun through the trees, pixel shaded bump mapping)

Oh yea, and did anyone realize that the marines that are "dead" are not really dead!?! Ok 2nd level, everyones "dead" grab your hand gun snipe on one of the guys eyes inside the escape pod, and you can see his eye is moving back and forth.... scary :)
Mrguy45@hotmail.com to know more

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Re: thoughts on Story.... Want to know somthing else?

MrGuy, why do we hafta email U? juat post whatever u have here otherwise I will just be suspicious that u want to leach ppls email addys to do bad things with :(

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the release date for halo 2

was somewhere around holiday season 2003

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Was? Wat'chu talkin' bout, Willis?

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YOUR NAME wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 11:57 am:

:
: was somewhere around holiday season 2003

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The holiday season is Q4. Fourth quarter. Last three months. Down by three points with one play left... oops, nevermind.

acrappa wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 5:54 pm:

: Was? Wat'chu talkin' bout, Willis?
:
: - Matt
:
: YOUR NAME wrote on Wednesday, 08/14/2002 - 11:57 am:
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: :
: : was somewhere around holiday season 2003
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So, basically, we're looking at a Christmas 2003 release?

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Dallon wrote on Thursday, 08/22/2002 - 4:12 pm:

: So, basically, we're looking at a Christmas 2003 release?

More or less. The only thing anyone will say is "4th Quarter 2003". Our unofficial countdown, which at the moment reads "449 days" is based on the assumption that Halo 2 will come out in plenty of time for Christmas shopping and 2 years to the day after Halo 1: November 15, 2003.



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Fair enough. I still want it now though!

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Dallon wrote on Wednesday, 08/28/2002 - 10:18 pm:

: Fair enough. I still want it now though!

Yah give me more halo now!!!!!! ME WANT SOME HALO!!!!

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Stuff I wanna see in Halo 2

In Halo one the weapons were pretty good with a few exceptions. In the screen shot you see the new asault rifle, well I think they should add a grenade launcher on that. And then add a hand heald heavy machine gun.
Also I think they should add a human aircraft you can fly and a motorcycle.

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Re: Stuff I wanna see in Halo 2

Havok wrote on Monday, 08/19/2002 - 5:36 am:

: In Halo one the weapons were pretty good with a few
: exceptions. In the screen shot you see the new asault
: rifle, well I think they should add a grenade launcher on
: that.

Well, since grenade throwing is available with any weapon, this might not be worth it unless it could throw them a really long distance...

And then add a hand heald heavy machine gun.
: Also I think they should add a human aircraft you can fly
: and a motorcycle.

Those would be neat... how about just including the Longsword as a pilotable vehicle? That'd be neat...



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Re: Stuff I wanna see in Halo 2

narcogen wrote on Monday, 08/19/2002 - 3:17 am:

: Those would be neat... how about just including the
: Longsword as a pilotable vehicle? That'd be neat...

Yeah, right.

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Re: Stuff I wanna see in Halo 2

If theres one thing that sould be in halo 2 its the covenant beam sword and you should be able to fly the wraiths and actually pilot a dropship

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